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Before the festivities start tomorrow, here’s my (pretty much completely useless) prediction on the results of the straw poll tomorrow:
Leave your predictions in the comments, and we’ll see tomorrow night at 7:00 Central time who was closest!
[UPDATE: According to the Cyclone Conservative, about 40,000 tickets have been sold to the straw poll so far, so factor that into your prediction if you need to. In 1999, 37,000 tickets were sold and just under 24,000 votes were cast.]
August 10th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
That looks like a good prediction to me.
August 10th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
Romney – 38%
Brownback – 14%
Huckabee – 13%
T. Thompson – 7%
F. Thompson – 6&
Giuliani – 6%
Tancredo – 5%
Ron Paul – 4%
McCain – 4%
Hunter – 3%
Gingrich – 1%
August 10th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Here’s my guess for the Iowa Straw Poll:
Romney 35%
Brownback 14%
Huckabee 12%
Paul 9%
Giuliani 8%
T. Thompson 7%
Tancredo 6%
McCain 5%
Others 4%
August 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Romney 28%
Huckabee 15%
Brownback 13%
Paul 11%
Rudy 10%
T. Thompson 7%
Tancredo 5%
Fred 5%
McCain 3%
Others 3%
August 10th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Romney 37
Brownback 14
T. Thompson 10
Huckabee 9
Tancredo 8
F. Thompson 6
Paul 6
McCain 4
Giuliani 4
Hunter 2
August 10th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Romney 25%
Huckabee 16%
Rudy 15%
Fred 13%
R.Paul 9%
McCain 7%
Brownback 7%
Tancredo 4%
T. Thompson 2%
Hunter 2%
You guys scare me having Brownback in the teens. Then again, I made these predictions before I heard the “bus news.”
I think one of the major unknowns is how much support will actually go to Rudy and Fred anyway, even though they’re not technically doing the straw poll. That to me is one of the key variables.
Anyone know what time the straw poll speeches are? Anyone know what time the poll closes?
August 10th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
Ok, I see closing time must be 7:00 Central. I expect C-Span is covering the speeches?
August 10th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
Scratch that prediction. After a re-think, I think Paul will be at 8%, Rudy at 7%, and Tancredo at 10%.
August 10th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
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August 10th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
I think it depeneds on how many undecided show up. The more Undecide the better I thin Huckabee does.
28% Romney
Huck/Brownback tied at 15%
Rudy 11
T. thompson 10
Tancado 10
Fred Thompson 6%
Hunter 3%
Newt 2%
August 10th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Wrong wrong wrong.
Cox – 92%
Others – the 8% John Cox lets them have
August 10th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
opps… Forgot about Paul and McCain
Romeny 27%
Huck
Brownback 14%
Rudy 10%
T. Thompson 9%
Tancado 9%
Paul 7%
Fred 5%
McCain 3%
Hunter 2%
August 10th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
M. Romney 50%
M. Huckabee 14%
R. Paul 9%
R. Giuliani 9%
F. Thompson 5%
T. Tancredo 4%
T. Thompson 4%
S. Brownback 3%
J. McCain 2%
D. Hunter 0%
August 10th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Romney – 32
Huckabee – 12
Paul – 11
Brownback – 11
Giuliani – 9
Tancredo – 8
Tommy Thompson – 8
Fred Thompson – 3
McCain – 2
Hunter – 1
Cox – 10000000%
Others – 2
This is exciting stuff, kids, eh? Very intense.
August 10th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
I think that most people showing to start are Romney guys and Undecides, with Huck likley pick up most of the Undecides after his speech.
August 10th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
One thing you’re forgetting, by the way, everyone: Ron Paul has f–king insanely devoted supporters. They’re a bunch of kooks. They are ALL COMING. I expect Paul in the top 4 at a minimum.
August 10th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Paul8148, you’re leaving out someone very important in your rankings.
August 10th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
So are Brian, Matt, Ilfigo, MWS, and econ grad stud…
August 10th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
I included him in “others”.
August 10th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
I agree with that Libertarina Guy on the predication about Ron Paul. He also plans to free ride of the contributions of Mitt supporters.
Romney 30%
Brownback 15%
Ron Paul 14%
Tommy Thompson 14%
Huckabee 8%
Tancredo 8%
Guliani 5%
Fred Thompson 3%
Mccain 2%
Hunter 1%
The rest
August 10th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
oh, lets see:
Romney – 29%
Huckabee – 17%
Tancredo – 12%
Brownback – 9%
Giuliani – 9%
Thompson (T) – 8%
Thompson (F) – 6%
McCain – 5%
Hunter – 3%
August 10th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
whoops! Drop Paul in at about 7%, take his support from every body but Romney.
August 10th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
Ron Paul-win
Romney- second
Rest-doesn’t matter
August 10th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
People like MirekChicago will turn out in droves to vote for Paul tomorrow.
August 10th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
If Ron Paul wins tomorrow, the entire poll becomes meaningless. Ron Paul is nothing but an isolationist wack-job who is loved by those with too much time on their hands.
August 10th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
Romney 29%
Brownback 14%
T.Thompson 12%
Paul 10%
Huckabee 9%
Giuliani 9%
F.Thompson 5%
McCain 5%
Tancredo 4%
Others 3%
August 10th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
[...] If he doesn’t come in first, it’s a huge loss for Team Mittens. A lot of people are predicting Sam will get second or third. That would be a win for Senator Brownback. And a great day for [...]
August 10th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
I did inch T. Thompson up a bit after having read the earlier “bus” story.
August 10th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
ACT Blog
He’s not isolationist. Do you even know what the word means?
August 10th, 2007 at 7:50 pm
Brownback 20%
Romney 10%
Huckabee 5%
The Rest just don’t matter to me…
August 10th, 2007 at 7:50 pm
My Final Four:
Romney 45
Huckabee 12
Paul 10
Brownback 8
August 10th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
If Romney doesn’t win, it’s a huge loss for him. If Brownback is 2nd or 3rd, it’s a huge win for him.
I predict:
Romney
Brownback
Huckabee/Tancredo
Beyond that, it’s hard to guess.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
I don’t know about Ames, but it looks like Thompson took another hit on intrade today, maybe the bubble has finally burst. We will have to see next week in the Rasmussen polls.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:40 pm
Romney – 19%
Paul – 15%
Giuliani – 11%
Tancredo – 10%
Huckabee – 9%
Brownback – 8%
McCain – 7%
T Thompson – 5%
Hunter – 3%
Others – 13%
August 10th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
Here’s my prediction for tomorrow’s Straw Poll….
Brownback 24%
Romney 18%
T Thompson 9%
Tancredo 9%
Huckabee 8%
Giuliani 7%
Paul 7%
F Thompson 6%
Hunter 5%
McCain 5%
Cox 2%
August 10th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Romney – 34%
Brownback – 16%
Huckabee – 10%
Paul – 8%
Giuliani – 8%
Tancredo – 6%
T. Thompson 6%
F Thompson – 6%
McCain – 4%
Write ins – 3%
Hunter – 1%
What does the winner get!
August 10th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
I think the winner should be mentioned in a post by Matt C.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Romney – 28%
T Thompson – 22%
Huckabee – 10%
Paul – 8%
Giuliani – 8%
Tancredo – 6%
Brownback 6%
F Thompson – 6%
McCain – 4%
Hunter – 1%
August 10th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
36. Whoever came closest to the actual top three results, that is.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
Wait . . . all the polls that have been touted on this site have Paul at 2%. He’s 11th out of 11 in your power rankings.
These are the “scientific” polls. They are the gospel. Paul can’t win. The Margin of error is only + or – 5%. So the most Ron Paul can POSSIBLY get is 7%.
If he gets more than 7%, the polls are meaningless and should be abandoned.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
Right then, let me clarify my earlier post:
Romney – 29%
Huckabee – 15%
Tancredo – 11%
Brownback – 9%
Giuliani – 9%
Thompson (T) – 8%
Paul – 7%
Thompson (F) – 6%
McCain – 4%
Hunter – 2%
August 10th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
39. A straw poll has nothing to do with anything like a scientific poll.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:50 pm
ACT blog is usually right about everything, just to let you know, “I am not a carbon-copy” of ACT Blog, I’ll prove it by a different, yet simular prediction.
Romney – 35%
Huckabee – 14%
Brownback – 14%
Paul – 9%
Thompson (F) – 7%
Guiliani – 6%
Thompson (T) – 5%
McCain – 4%
Tancredo – 3%
Hunter – 2%
Other (Cox and Gingrich included) – 1%
August 10th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Note: I am told that write ins are not being allowed but that is just what I thought I read somewhere..
August 10th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
ACT Blog — Today: “If Ron Paul wins tomorrow, the entire poll becomes meaningless. Ron Paul is nothing but an isolationist wack-job who is loved by those with too much time on their hands.”
Yesterday: “I’m getting sick of the name-calling, TLG.”
Consistent with what’s acceptable in intellectual discourse award goes to…
The poll actually becomes revolutionary if Ron Paul wins.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
35 — “What does the winner get!”
A dinner with Phil Gramm, Pat Robertson, and other previous straw poll winners.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
45. This dinner, with the above mentioned, could take place in the the White House where the winner of the last straw poll resides.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
The Romney campign is accuses Rudy’s of running a stealth campign.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Huckabee- 24%- Not my candidate, but from what I’m hearing from friends in Iowa he could pull a shocker
Romney- 20%
Tancredo- 10%
Brownback- 8%
Giuliani-8%
F. Thompson- 8%
T. Thompson- 8%
McCain- 7%
Paul- 5%
Hunter- 2%
August 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
1st: Romney (ahead by atleast 8 to 10%)
2nd: Paul (Everyone doubts him only because they don’t know him. A strong showing for him here will boost him nationwide).
3rd: Giuliani
The others are negligible and will drop out soon after the primaries actually begin.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:03 pm
I forsee a looming Fred vs. Mitt vs. Mike battle later on…kind of a primary within the primary…for the social conservative vote…with the winner taking on Rudy for the nomination…Anyways here are my Straw Poll predictions…
Mitt 28% …You can buy this straw poll
Mike 21% …Person-Person politics still lives
Rudy 13% …This vote won’t be much higher in the caucus either
Sam 12% …Organization alone buys you 10%
Fred 7% …This # might be lower…or higher…probably lower
John 6% …Age…Amnesty…Age…Amnesty…not a good combo
Tanc. 4% …All the Hot-Heads
Ron 4% …All the Wackos
Tom T. 3% …All the Nursing-Home people he could get to polls
Dunc. 2% …Wonderful VP Selection for Mike
Now this is assuming that Ron Paul supporters don’t find a way to manipulate the system…
August 10th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Compare Ron Paul’s views to Thomas Jefferson’s views.
Would you call Jefferson a Wacko, Rett? Or someone who supports Jefferson?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
Nusrat, regardless of Paul’s actual beliefs, he’s certainly been linked — and has not disavowed the ties to — many radicals, including 9/11 ‘Truthers,’ North American Union conspiracy theorists, New World Order/Bilderberger conspiracy theorists — well — basically, conspiracy theorists of all stripes. It’s not always his fault. But can a guy that attracts Chemtrail nuts outside of his appearances really cater to the mainstream? Politics is, as they say, the art of the possible.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:46 pm
And really — I sympathize with Paul. I would support him wholeheartedly if he weren’t so naive about terrorism. There’s a part of me that wants to see him do well and would love to see him as President. I would support him in a general election campaign if he somehow, amazingly, managed to pull of the nomination. But he wouldn’t win, and revolutionaries like Paul always attract a bizarre mish-mash of crazies — not you, not sympathizers like most of the libertarian-leaners on this site. I’m talking about the true crazies…and that rubs off on Paul, like it or not. People think he’s a nut because his True Believer followers are mostly nuts.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:53 pm
“# Scott Says:
August 10th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
45. This dinner, with the above mentioned, could take place in the the White House where the winner of the last straw poll resides.”
I was illustrating a point, of course: this straw poll’s results-as-a-caucus-predictor are mixed at bests. Dole tied Gramm, W. Bush won. Bush I lost. Anyone using Ames as a “make-or-break” event doesn’t know their straw poll history. It’s just a little test of current organizational strength. Still, it’s interesting enough in a boring month.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:00 am
Actually Dr. Paul HAS denied those 9/11 conspiracy theory ties (see interviews on Mike Gallagher’s radio show and Fox News). Furthermore, how is he naive about terrorism? It seems to me non-interventionism will actually allow us to take more time to fix our domestic issues rather than try and be the world’s policemen. It has been shown (by our own intelligence gathering administrators, mind you) our military operations in Iraq and abroad have strengthened the will of foreign terrorists.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:13 am
His denials have been ambiguous at best, in my estimation, but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, I suppose.
I’m in favor of non-interventionism when it has nothing to do with our country. I’m opposed to the sort of overseas adventures that went on during the Clinton years — Operation “Noble Anvil” for instance — but I’d argue — in more detail at a later time, I’m a little tired right now — that winning the War in Iraq (if anyone asks what “winning” means one more time, I swear to god) is very much in our national interest. Should we have gone? No, not with what we know now. But let’s not pretend that we knew then what we did now. With the information that we had, it was perfectly reasonable to attack Iraq. It’s not being the world’s policeman to go in there for something we wanted for our own interests. We’re not doing charity work, and anyone promoting that as an ideal shouldn’t be elected. But we do have to win in order to remain as safe as we are right now.
Let’s wait for Petraeus’ report…
August 11th, 2007 at 12:13 am
TLG,
I do not see, the sure winner of the Iowa straw poll, Romney as having any chance of being the nominee. I was just having some good natured fun with you sir.
Now that I think of it, econgrad student would probably enjoy good conversation with Phil Gramm in such a setting.
I hope he wins. (No slight to you EGS, I enjoy your posts)
August 11th, 2007 at 12:28 am
Scott, who are you supporting..?
I’m not sure how this race will play out, myself, but I will be depressed for weeks if Romney pulls it off — I was so looking forward to getting involved in 2008, and, well, if Romney becomes the nominee, I just won’t be able to do that. Oh, well. We shall see.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:29 am
” When Paul was asked by Shawn Wasson in an interview on LiveLeak.com if he believed that ‘9/11 was orchestrated by the government,’ Paul responded emphatically, ‘Absolutely not.’ ”
That’s ambiguous?
But I digress.
Getting into a debate about the Iraq War these days is like trying to trying to convince an Israeli that he or she does not have the right to an Israeli state. People will only get pissed off. Waiting for Petraeus’ report will only delay the discussion of the issue and I have a feeling that no matter what he says no one will give up an inch of ground.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:31 am
Here is my unsolicated predictions. When I guess right, I want to win a prize (kidding of course). Here goes.
1.Romney 32%- 1% better than W did.
2.Huckabee 14%- while polling at about 8%, that would be good
3.Rudy 10%- which some here would call a win (to get 3rd and lose by 20%)
4.Brownback 9%-good when you consider he is below 5% in the polls
5.Paul-8%-which there fans would go nuts over
6.T Thompson 7%-hope he goes away
7.F Thompson 6%-
8.McCain 6%-hope he goes away too
9.Tancredo 5%-go home too please
10. Hunter 2%-come repair my broken fence please
11. Cox 0.043%-Cox who?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:31 am
Romney – 32%
Huckabee – 16%
Brownback – 14%
T Thompson – 8%
Tancredo – 7%
Giuliani – 7%
F Thompson – 6%
Paul – 6%
McCain – 2%
Hunter – 2%
Gingrich – 1% (as a write-in)
Keyes – 0.5% (write-in)
Cox – 0.5%
August 11th, 2007 at 12:33 am
TLG, geez, im bummed you wont volunteer or vote for Mitt in the general. What a huge lose. I hope he can recover in spite of that should he somehow win.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:46 am
58. Having had a hard time coming to terms with Giuliani’s abortion stance, I have come to believe that he is the only candidate who can take on HRC. His positioning, being an effective pro-life candidate, is the most pragmatic means as far as I can see for something I care about.
Also, having grown up in NYC, there is something cultural and experiential that can’t be dismissed with respect to Rudy. So, I am supporting Giuliani and I do think he can win.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:50 am
Romney 26%
Huckabee 19%
Tancredo 9%
Hunter 7%
Brownback 7%
Paul 6%
Tommy Thompson 6%
McCain 5%
Rudy 4%
Thompson 4%
Cox 2%
August 11th, 2007 at 1:03 am
I think people are failing to consider what the current polls are in IA right now when predicting this. I think that a strong Ames push by a candidate might raise his straw poll numbers 5-7% for Ames only. Those who wont participate will be hurt by about 5-7% or so (at Ames only). That said, I dont see Brownback getting more than about 8-10% at most when he was polling right now at less than 5% in nearly every IA poll. Huck reached his high water mark at 8% recently but isnt doing as much as some. Could he really expect to get more than about 12-15%. Rudy isnt participating, but has been polling between 12-22% recently. If you say he is at about 14% or so, could his non participation really be much lower than about 10%. Romney has been between 21%-31%. If we called it about 26%, and added 5% for a solid groundgame, I would say he should get about 31%.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:08 am
Tancredo getting 4 times his usual support? Rudy sliding by 10+%? And my favorite from Bryan who suggests that Brownback will pull in 24%, while never polling higher than 5% ever.
Bryan, please put down the koolaid sir. I bet that the tens of Brownback supporters will get over Brownback’s inevitable defeat and immediate withdrawl.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:43 am
Romney 33%
Brownback 13%
Huckabee 12%
T. Thompson 10%
Tancredo 8%
Guiliani 7%
Paul 5%
F. Thompson 5%
McCain 4%
Hunter 3%
August 11th, 2007 at 2:16 am
# Husky Says:
August 11th, 2007 at 12:33 am
TLG, geez, im bummed you wont volunteer or vote for Mitt in the general. What a huge lose. I hope he can recover in spite of that should he somehow win.”
Husky’s stepped up the attacks now that he’s seen that I’m not an invertebrate. In fact, this would be a rather funny retort if I wasn’t talking about how I would personally be disappointed that I wouldn’t have any fun this campaign season if Mitt won the nomination. (”11. Cox 0.043%-Cox who?” — Um, excuse me, Cox is the frontrunner and he will sweep Ames with 92%)
#64 — So the Invisible Candidate (George H.W. Bush!?) gets five percent, then?
#59 — Fine, but he needs to condemn the conspiracy whackos following him loudly and often if he hopes to gain any mainstream support.
Also people, remember: THERE ARE NO UNDECIDEDS AT STRAW POLLS. The numbers are GOING TO BE HIGHER for people like Paul, Brownback, etc, than usual.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:39 am
[...] Ames Predictions Predictions, and nothing but. Interesting to see what folks are thinking. Sphere: Related [...]
August 11th, 2007 at 4:22 am
Romney – 37%
Huckabee – 14%
Tancredo – 11%
Giuliani – 9%
Paul – 8%
Brownback – 6%
F. Thompson – 5%
T. Thompson – 4%
McCain – 3%
Hunter – 2%
Cox – 1%
August 11th, 2007 at 4:29 am
If Mitt gets 40% plus and/or beats no 2 by double that a HUGE result, however the others spin it (and they will).
Who’s leaving after Ames?
I’d say only T. Thompson and Tancredo.
August 11th, 2007 at 5:20 am
[...] 10. Ames Predictions Predictions, and nothing but. Interesting to see what folks are thinking. Do you have any [...]
August 11th, 2007 at 6:33 am
Thinking of the Straw Poll reminds me of one of my favorite Iowans: Bill Fries (C.W. McCall) singer of the song “Convoy”.
I suppose the roads leading to Ames will be clogged with convoys of voters.
August 11th, 2007 at 7:36 am
some suspect that McCain, Guliani, and Thompson are sending people the straw poll to vote for others in hopes of deflating Romney’s win.
I just can’t see Romney going more than 10 percent with every single candidate after him. this has become a contest between romney and every other candidate. if he managed 10 percent it would be a huge feat.
August 11th, 2007 at 8:41 am
You are kidding Jon.
August 11th, 2007 at 9:16 am
TO Nusrat in #51: I offer the following:
1) TJ WAS the founder of the DEMOCRAT party…
2) People who follow the political line of 200 years ago might be termed Wacko… (stress the word might)
3) TJ sent U.S. forces into battle against the Barbary pirates… something RP WOULD never support…
4) The line between genius and insanity is thin…
August 11th, 2007 at 11:43 am
Thompson, McCain, and Giuliani has no business being on the ballot. The Iowa Republican party should have thrown McCain and Giuliani to the curb after their snub, and Thompson is not even an official candidate yet.
August 11th, 2007 at 11:55 am
“1) TJ WAS the founder of the DEMOCRAT party…
2) People who follow the political line of 200 years ago might be termed Wacko… (stress the word might)
3) TJ sent U.S. forces into battle against the Barbary pirates… something RP WOULD never support…
4) The line between genius and insanity is thin…”
WOW.
WOW, wow, wow, wow — I cannot believe you just seriously used #4 as a point in your argument. That’s a meaningless bromide and nothing else. And as for the second one — are you or are you not in favor of strict constructionism!? Yeah, who follows that musty old Constitution, anyway.
Just because something is old doesn’t mean it isn’t worth preserving, and just because something is radically new doesn’t mean it’s wacko.
TJ wasn’t the “founder” of any party, either, but keep in mind that the Democrats of yesteryear were much different than today’s.
A sorely uneducated post!
August 11th, 2007 at 11:56 am
I second 75.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
TLG- I get your sarcasm, ha, ha!. Seriously though, Im curious what result it would take to send Brownback home. Would Tancredo or Paul drop out too if they did really bad? I hope that Romney has more than the 31% that Bush had in 1999. I hope he wins by double digits. And I hope that TLG supports him in the general.
Additionally, I wonder if Rudy or Fred managed to get 2nd-4th place, would there followers talk that up as a positive after deciding not to attend? It would be foolish too but I can see the positive spin by some already.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
Watching it on cspan. If I had to count I see more Fair Tax people up front anyway. Can be good sign for Huck or Tom since they both will promote it. Which one goes first?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
TLG -
Being a constructionist does not imply following the political philosophies of more than 200 years ago. The constitution can be changed and processes are provided within to do so. TJ envisioned a country of genteel farmers and advocated policies to achieve that end. The point was, and is, that RP is not a Jeffersonite.
If you read the post again, it clearly says “might” — I completely agree with your point regarding new an old.
As for the educational level of my post I provide this quote from wikipedia “The Democratic Party traces its origins to the Democratic-Republican Party, founded by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and other influential opponents of the Federalists in 1792. Since the division of the Republican Party in the election of 1912, it has consistently positioned itself to the left of the Republican Party in economic as well as social matters.”
I agree with your point that both the Dems and the GOP have changed position dramatically over the years, the most important probably being states rights. But, to claim TJ was not the founder of any party?????
August 11th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
oh the mitt people are in yellow
August 11th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
they booed paul
August 11th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
Interesting Tommy got lounder cheers than Sam.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
What the heck, here goes:
1. Romney
2. Giuliani
3. FDT
4. Brownback
5. McCain
6. Huckabee
7. Paul
8. T. Thompson
Hunter
August 11th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
“The Democratic Party traces its origins to the Democratic-Republican Party, founded by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and other influential opponents of the Federalists in 1792.”
That’s nice, but that’s not what you said.
You said he was the founder of the party.
August 11th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
“And I hope that TLG supports him in the general.” No, I’d vote for a third party, maybe the Constitution or Libertarian candidate. I live in Maryland — it’s a “so-blue-it’s-black” (Romney) state, anyway. So, it’s not like it really matters.
August 11th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
I wanted to get in on the predictions, just for fun
My revised prediction
Romney 26
Brownback 20
Huckabee 12
T. Thompson 8
Tancredo 7
Gingrich 6
F. Thompson 5
Giuliani 5
Paul 4
McCain 4
Hunter 2
Cox 1
Although, who really knows!