From the Prince, himself:
Fred Thompson’s decision to announce his presidential candidacy with a video was suggested by Newt Gingrich, who is considered a possible contender himself.
Former House Speaker Gingrich has indicated he will run only if Thompson does not or his late-starting campaign crashes and burns. Actor-politician Thompson plans to follow the model of Democrat Hillary Clinton by launching his campaign with a video, followed by a fly-around to several cities.
Gingrich has expressed contempt for becoming one of many announced Republican candidates at crowded debates. Thompson has decided to be one of many at the Sept. 27 debate at Baltimore’s Morgan State University.
SurveyUSA dumped yet another batch of general election polling today, this time focusing on the states of the Upper Midwest. Like the border states it has thus far focused on, SurveyUSA finds Minnesota, Iowa, and Wisconsin to all be in play as we move from a polarized nation to a purple America. Dave Wissing, as always, has the numbers:
PRESIDENT - MINNESOTA
Hillary 47%
Giuliani 44%Hillary 50%
Thompson 41%Hillary 52%
Romney 36%PRESIDENT - WISCONSIN
Giuliani 46%
Hillary 46%Hillary 48%
Thompson 45%Hillary 49%
Romney 42%PRESIDENT - IOWA
Hillary 52%
Giuliani 40%Hillary 53%
Thompson 40%Hillary 51%
Romney 42%
A few observations. First, note that in Minnesota and Wisconsin, the Rudy/Hillary matchups, which are the only ones that control for name recognition in those states, are identical to the presidential margins produced by those states in 2004. As we saw in recent days, Pennsylvania has also returned to a 2-point Democratic spread in a Rudy/Hillary matchup, also the exact margin of Kerry’s victory over Bush in the state in 2004. In northern state after northern state, the Democratic gains of 2006 are being replaced with a return to the parity of 2004. That means that tons of Bush voters who voted for guys like Casey and Doyle in ‘06 are willing to again pull the GOP lever in next year’s presidential election. Their defection to the Democrats was temporary, not permanent, meaning that my worst fears about a new, realigned Blue North, fueled by the double-digit Democratic victories in many Great Lakes states last year, have apparently not come to pass.
Secondly, notice that Iowa, like Missouri, Virginia, and other border states, seems to have experienced a delayed blue shift. I’m still open to theories as to why this would be, though I still think that it’s because states like Virginia didn’t get a chance in 2006 to really give the GOP the shellacking that even many conservatives think it deserves. Again, goodbye red/blue divide, hello Purple America.
Third, note that in Iowa, a state that has been getting plenty of attention from all the major candidates and where name recognition is thus largely controlled for, there is no real statistical difference between Hillary’s margin of victory over any of our guys. This begs the question of whether or not any Republican nominee would perform basically the same against Hillary due to Mrs. Clinton’s own status as a polarizer. Just as 2000 and 2004 were elections largely about George W. Bush, 2008 may turn out to be an election that has everything to do with whether or not voters love or hate Hillary Clinton. Al Gore and John Kerry basically received the same voters from the same states in the two previous elections; they got the anti-Bush voters while the president received the pro-Bush voters both times. It’s quite possible that Hillary is the Democratic version of Dubya: a personality who is so polarizing and who will dominate the election to such a degree that the Republican nominee will simply be the default vote for the anti-Hillary voters, roughly half of the nation, while Hillary wins the other half of the country that supports her. Just a late night theory, but one that seems more and more true every day. Following Bush II with Clinton II would be the ultimate act in political polarization for a country that seems finally ready to head back towards some sort of unity. It would mean that by 2012 or 2016, our nation will have lived through 12-16 years of polarizing presidents, and 24-28 years of two-family rule. All of which makes it even more ironic that all of this began with President Bush yearning to be a uniter instead of a divider. He tried, but history often has other ideas.
Update: One final theory, and I dare not dwell on it, lest it come true, concerns the gap between Iowa’s results and those of Minnesota and Wisconsin. The chasm seems odd given the cultural similarity of these three states and the proximity of their respective election results in 2004 (Iowa gave Bush a one-point victory). As I stated above, Iowa is one of the few states actually paying attention at this point because politics is being forced down voters’ throats due to the coming caucus. Perhaps Iowans are simply reacting the way Minnesotans, Wisconsinites, and Pennsylvanians will also react once they too find out that all of the GOP contenders are failing to offer a real break with current GOP orthodoxy on foreign policy. If so, that means the voters of those other states will follow suit when making the same discovery. If that’s true, and again, this comes with every caveat in the book, then the game is already over.
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R4′08 is please to present the following guest editorial by Sean of the seminal My Election Analysis. Sean wished to provide our readers with a rebuttal to some of the pessimism that has been prevalent around here lately. _____________________________________________________________________________________
“It was widely asserted by journalists and Democrats that Americans had undergone a fundamental shift in attitude on economic issues and the place of government, that they had rejected the policies of the 1980s and embraced governmental solutions. On cultural issues, polls showed an American people willing to tolerate behaviors that a generation ago were considered illegitimate and for a feeling that people should be left to their own decisions on moral issues.”
It seems that Barone is validating the doom-and-gloom view of the GOP’s future. But there is a caveat. This isn’t an excerpt from this year’s Almanac of American Politics. It is an excerpt from the 1994 Almanac, written right after Bill Clinton’s electoral college landslide, and after Americans elected a 57-Democrat Senate majority, and a 258-Democrat House majority.
And this is the gist of my response to DaveG. We’ve been here before. About once a decade, very erudite people proclaim the death of conservatism (in fairness, Barone concluded that the above people were incorrect). It happened in 1964, 1974, 1982, and then in 1992, 1996, and 1998. And yet, somehow, conservatism bounced back in fairly short order each time. I suspect the future is not much more grim for modern conservatism. What we are probably seeing today is not a conservatism that is dead, but rather two things: a conservatism that is exhausted after holding power for six years in very trying times, and a conservatism that has comparatively receded from the successes of 2002 and 1994, but that is still fairly healthy.
I say “probably,” and that is my very important caveat at the outset of this. We may well be seeing the dawn of a new leftward lurch in this country. Voters who remember the results of liberal excess in the 1970s grow increasingly few and far between. Most voters don’t recall that the scandals which engulfed the GOP Congress were preceded by similar scandals that plagued Democrats for most of the 80s and early 90s; how many people today remember that the Democratic Speaker and Majority Whip both resigned as a result of separate ethical scandals in the 101st Congress? As the culture wars of the 60s and 70s recede, as whites begin to move back into urban cores, as globalization continues its march, we may see a resurgence of pro-government mentality in the United States. I don’t purport to have a crystal ball.
And it is also appropriate to acknowledge that Dave G has several prominent thinkers in his corner. John Podhoretz notes that liberal candidates won 51% popular vote in 2000. Perhaps, JPod argues, 2002 and 2004 were exceptions to the rule, brought about by the recency of 9-11? John Judis and Ruy Teixeira have been voices in the wilderness for years, hypothesizing as early as 2001 that demographic changes would make Democrats the majority party by decade’s end. A widely-cited Pew Poll shows conservative name identification plummeting. This may be the most widely cited poll on the internet; today Pew’s Andrew Kohut and Carroll Doherty are touting their polls results, citing changes from 1994 and 2002 as evidence that conservatism is losing its luster. And conservative bloggers Patrick Ruffini and Patrick Hynes have added their two cents about what’s going wrong.
I think that when these claims are held up to microscope, they aren’t as strong as they seem at face value. In short, there are good reasons why the present state of despondency among conservatives, in both the long-term and the short-term, is unwarranted. This isn’t to say that conservatives should be bullish by any stretch of the imagination, but neither should they be looking for a good spot on the Verrazzano Bridge off of which to jump.


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Question |
1987 |
2007 |
Diff. |
| Most elected officials care what people like me think | 47% | 34% | +13% |
| The government is really run for the benefit of all the people | 57% | 45% | +12% |
| There needs to be stricter laws and regulations to protect the environment (90% in 1992) | 83% | +7% | |
| Voting gives people like me some say about how government runs things | 78% | 71% | +7% |
| There are clear guidelines about what’s good and evil that apply to everyone | 34% | 39% | +5% |
| People like me don’t have any say about what the government does | 52% | 48% | +4% |
| Prayer is an important part of my daily life (change in “completely agree”) | 76% | 78% | +2% |
| Government should take care of those who can’t take care of themselves | 71% | 69% | +2% |
| Rich just get richer, poor get poorer | 74% | 73% | +1% |
| Business Corporations make too much profit | 65% | 65% | 0% |
| Government regulation of business does more harm than good | 57?% | 57% | 0% |
| Government should help the needy even if it means greater debt | 53% | 54% | -1% |
| When something is run by the government, it is usually inefficient and wasteful | 63% | 62% | -1% |
| We should restrict and control people coming into our country to live more than we do now. | 76% | 75% | -1% |
| It is best for the future of our country to be active in world affairs | 87% | 86% | -1% |
| We will all be called before God at the Judgment Day to answer for our sins | 81% | 79% | -2% |
| We should try to get even with any country that tries to take advantage of the U.S. | 42% | 40% | -2% |
| I have old fashioned values about family and marriage | 45% | 41% | -4% |
| Books that contain dangerous ideas should be banned from public school libraries | 50% | 46% | -4% |
| The strength of this country today is mostly based on the success of American business (largest gain in 18-29 group) | 76% | 72% | -4% |
| Business corporations generally strike a fair balance between profits and the public interest | 43% | 38% | -5% |
| In the past few years there hasn’t been much real improvement in the position of black people ) | 36% | 41% | -5% |
| Best way to ensure peace is through military strength | 54% | 49% | -5% |
| I never doubt the existence of God | 88% | 83% | -5% |
| Women should return to their traditional roles in society (disagree) | 66% | 75% | -9% |
| We should make every effort to improve the position of blacks and minorities, even if it means giving preferential treatment | 24% | 34% | -10% |
| AIDS might be God’s punishment for immoral sexual behavior | 43% | 23% | -20% |
| Women should return to their traditional roles in society (completely disagree) | 29% | 51% | -22% |
| School boards should have the right to fire homosexual teachers | 51% | 28% | -23% |
| I think its all right for blacks and whites to date each other | 48% | 83% | -35% |
(On a different note, for those who believe that government-run health care is inevitable, a different poll shows that while 53% claim they are willing to pay higher taxes for health care, that is actually significantly lower than the 66% who responded affirmatively in 1993, shortly before HillaryCare crashed and burned.)
The bottom line is that the evidence shows that pro-conservative views are down from 1994 and 2002 – two very good Republican years – but are still around the level that they were in 1987. In other words, after six years of a pretty good Democratic President and seven years of an incompetent Republican President, public attitudes are all the way back to where they were in the seventh year of the best conservative President possibly ever. That doesn’t strike me as bad news. In fact, again, given what Dubya has dealt with, and how he’s dealt with it, I’m actually surprised it isn’t worse.
Truth be told, most of the goals that conservatives set out to accomplish three or four decades ago are complete. The days of 70-percent tax rates are over; when even liberal Democrats can’t stomach a top tax rate over 40-percent, conservatives have won the debate on that issue. The median Supreme Court Justice is now the center-right Anthony Kennedy. Those who remember what the average SCOTUS Justice looked like during the days of the Warren Court can appreciate the seismic shift this has meant for our nation’s jurisprudence. Welfare was reformed; a Democratic president proclaimed the end to the era of big government. And the major foreign policy issue that conservatives had assembled around, the destruction of Communism, was accomplished.
If this is the case, then why in God’s name is conservatism as we know it dead? If we aren’t going back to 70% marginal rates, or even 50% rates, how are we in trouble? Reagan’s tax cuts cut the top rate to 50%. We don’t seem eager to roll back welfare reform and undertake more transfer payments; instead we seem to be (if anything) adopting a greater governmental role in helping people get health insurance, or prepare for their education. This is not wealth redistribution or transfer payments, this is essentially investment in infrastructure, and fits more within Reagan’s framework than Roosevelt’s (or Johnson’s) (remember the short-lived catastrophic health insurance plan that Reagan signed?). Obviously, the devil is in the details, but if government guarantees health care for those who can’t afford it within a Massachusetts-style, market oriented framework, I don’t consider that a loss; remember, none of the Democrats are talking about a single-payer type system. Indeed, re-regulation or nationalization of industries is out, and we are a very, very, very long way from the planned economy that seemed inevitable to observers in the 1930s.
Even on social issues, conservatives have won. By conservatives, I mean conservatives, and not the religious right, a more rigid minority in the Republican party to whom the following doesn’t apply. The goal of a conservative is not to ensure that society never changes. It is to ensure that changes are made deliberately, through evolution, rather than revolution, to ensure that the changes we make are wise ones. Over the past forty years, we have accepted that society is better off if women are allowed to work. We haven’t, however, adopted comparative worth theories of compensation, or other radical, unworkable theories favored by the feminist left. We’ve become gradually more tolerant of gays, and may well decide that gay marriage is okay. But that decision will only come after decades of discussion, in large part thanks to conservative efforts to keep state Supreme Courts from declaring gay marriage a right. We’ve increasingly accepted racial minorities, while rejecting some ideas such as bussing, and much in the way of racial preferences (probably moving toward a more class-based system). Society has changed for the better in many ways in the past forty years, and conservatives have played a large role in ensuring that the changes we made were good ones. SoCons will continue that role as the slate of social issues continues to evolve.
I don’t wish to overstate my case. Issues may trend against the Republicans through a Democratic Administration. The young may foretell a leftward march. And in the short-term, all the Republican candidates have flaws of their own (but then again, every candidate does; lord knows W and Bill Clinton did). We’re closer to President Hillary than I ever would have expected. But neither are things as bleak for Republicans as they’re made out to be, and an incompetent Clinton Administration, or for that matter, any Democratic Administration that tried to overreach, would go a long way toward restoring faith in the GOP. But with that, as with everything, only time will tell.
- Rudy Giuliani 24%
- Fred Thompson 22%
- John McCain 13%
- Mitt Romney 13%
- Mike Huckabee 5%
Daily tracking results are from survey interviews conducted over four days ending last night. Each update includes approximately 600-650 Likely Republican Primary Voters. Margin of sampling error is +/- 4 percentage points.
This news is about as fresh as day-old bread here in Minnesota, but a well-attended Republican straw poll victory for Fred Thompson in St. Paul Wednesday evening was noteworthy for several reasons.
First, Governor Pawlenty’s political machine here, such as it is, is heavily invested in McCain. Even after McCain’s meltdown became evident earlier this summer, the state GOP — at the behest of Pawlenty — moved up the date of the Minnesota caucuses in a vain attempt to give McCain a chance at a February 5th victory.
Second, the victory comes after several weeks of the prevalent media meme that Thompson waited too long before declaring.
Third, Minnesota’s conservative base has moved decisively away from Speaker Gingrich and towards Senator Thompson. In June of 2006 Speaker Gingrich scored a suprisingly strong victory in a presidential straw poll at the state GOP convention. In Wednesday’s poll, Gingrich placed last.
Lastly, the victory required a little added effort as Thompson’s name was not on the ballot and he won as the result of a write-in.
The results were as follows (H/T Minnesota Democrats Exposed):
Fred Thompson (write-in), Former Tennessee Senator: 21% Mitt Romney, Former Massachusetts Governor: 20% Ron Paul, Texas Congressman: 16% Rudy Giuliani, Former Mayor of New York: 13% John McCain, U.S. Senator of Arizona: 11% Mike Huckabee, Former Arkansas Governor: 8% John Cox, Illinois businessman: 4% Duncan Hunter, California Congressman: 2% Tom Tancredo, Colorado Congressman: 2% Sam Brownback, U.S. Senator from Kansas: 2% Newt Gingrich (write-in), Former Speaker of the House from Georgia: 2%
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