McCain Hits Romney, Giuliani
On Romney’s answer on Iran, he said, “Calling in the lawyers is just inexperience. It’s just the product of inexperience.”
On Rudy and his successful Supreme Court challenge of the line-item veto: “I don’t fault him…the way it was written was unconstitutional.”
Capital Sources: Mike Huckabee, Unplugged
The former Arkansas governor struggles to raise money, lags behind the GOP presidential front runners in the polls and has been maligned by Bush’s former counsel. Why he keeps on keepin’ on.
Two keys:
- Evangelicals turn to Romney, AND
- Rasmussen sees good news for Giuliani until 2 man race.
Giuliani has run a great campaign so far, but he needs FDT & Mitt to split the base vote (socon/evangelical vote) in order to win via a plurality, or a thumping win in Super Tuesday’s primaries. If Mitt starts to pull away, it’ll be a two way fight & early wins in Iowa & NH would be very hard to knock over.
Huckabee is the joker in that scenario. If FDT/Mitt loses steam then Huck could step into the breach. If he does, Rudy should make him VP as a reward.
Metro why do you assume those polls mean anything?
Most voters are unaware of Rudy’s liberal social stances. I’m not saying Rudy would lose in a two way race. What I’m saying is anyone who thinks polls tell the future is an idiot.
Metro (#3) I was going on the article from Rasmussen.
It would be fair to say that if Rudy is sitting at 30% with Mitt & FDT at 20% each – then a Mitt win in Iowa would probably consolidate a fair chunk of the vote for whom issues like abortion are of primary importance.
A point worth remembering is that once voting starts, people like to coalesce around the consensus candidate.
- Fiscal conservatives who currently support Rudy will be quite happy to switch to Mitt (in particular, given his background) or FDT.
- “terrorism conservatives” will mainly stick with Rudy, but would stomach FDT or Mitt.
- social conservatives will not stomach Rudy. They will support Mitt, FDT, Huckabee & possibly even Sam somebody (Brownback? hard to remember him, I keep falling asleep) to stop Rudy getting in.
So this state of affairs puts Rudy at a disadvantage. Sure he can still win it, and the longer the socon vote splits the better, but the odds are stacked against him. The last pro-choice candidate on the GOP side was Ford, the incumbent President.
David Frum’s endorsement of Rudy is one the best endorsement quote for Rudy that I’ve seen:
“Mayor Rudy Giuliani has proven himself the most supremely effective public executive of our times. He has shown courage, character, and conviction under the most ferocious pressure.
“He has solved problems that were previously thought hopeless and achieved successes that others dismissed as impossible. He has made government work – and he has shown that he understands government’s limits.
“As a conservative, I know Rudy Giuliani shares my values. As a former New York City taxpayer, I have seen that he respects the dollars entrusted to him. And as a father, I trust him to keep my family safe from threat and danger.”
Frum is just another unperfected jew. I am rather sick of having our foreign policy and now our domestic politics dictated by Tel Aviv.
People are afraid to speak up for fear of being called anti-semitic, but starting today do this simple test. Pay attention to who is bringing you the news and who is controlling our policy and economy. From my observations, NBC, for example, is completely in the hands of jews. The executives, the reporters, and especially their cable outlets (MSNBC and CNBC). Is it therefore surprising that you rarely hear negative news about Isreal or jews. Isn’t it news that a small population controls some of the largest media outlets (NBC, LA Times, NY Times, and Disney, Viacom, hell most of hollywood).
People will say that jews just work hard and are smart. Well, that is true, but they also practice exclusionary policies. When they take over a business they bring fellow jews in and exclude white christians. That is certainly how it works in the media and on wall street.
Of course this is a rant and sounds hateful. It is difficult to attack any group without sounding this way. But it doesn’t mean its not true and the facts bear me out.
I object to your public polluting ignorance and retardness.
Still, what do you think it is about the Jews? How do all those “controlling” Jews at NBC, for example, get one over on their bosses at GE?
Did you lose a job to a Jew? It likely wasn’t because the Jews practice exclusionary policies, it’s likely the person doing the hiring saw you for the sick fuck you admit to being.
You are an ignorant foolish hateful anti-Semite. You are obviously so insecure and so idiotic that you have to make yourself feel better by hating other people.
Get a life. I hope you get banned from the site for your hateful rhetoric.
I was watching the C-Span broadcast of the authors of the new book about the jewish lobbying group AIPAC and they were decribing the attacks they received. Not on their book, but on them personally just as is the case here. But such nonsense does not offend me because it highlights the inability of opponents to argue the facts. I did not pick NBC out of the blue; I researched. Its not anti-semitic to point out facts and statistics.
I want to add another thought I had which we may have to take into consideration. We have quite a few idiotic voters out there in our country (Paris Hilton, anyone?). As such, they may see just two New Yorkers who, to them, are the same. What could serve as a tie-breaker for them is what is most obvious to them — woman vs man. Do we need to guess which way they will go? Again, this and my post in #16 only matter if we are talking about a close election race between Hillary and Rudy, and so far, I have seen all indications that this could be Bush vs Gore all over again. Unlikely the polls from earlier this year, more and more polls recently shows that it will be more of a fight than coast for Rudy to win this election. If that is the case, we could use every advantage, however minor they are. This is something to consider.
Sorry, I did not finish my post in #17. This is something to consider, will Rudy be the man who could seize upon those advantages, every single one of them? I am not sure he is, anymore. I am questioning the reality of his electability, especially when we put him side to side with Hillary. What will the general public see? Will his 9/11 image be enough to override the glory of Bill Clinton?
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October 11th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
Bravo on adding a section for Huckabee — that Capital Sources interview was really excellent.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:57 pm
Two keys:
- Evangelicals turn to Romney, AND
- Rasmussen sees good news for Giuliani until 2 man race.
Giuliani has run a great campaign so far, but he needs FDT & Mitt to split the base vote (socon/evangelical vote) in order to win via a plurality, or a thumping win in Super Tuesday’s primaries. If Mitt starts to pull away, it’ll be a two way fight & early wins in Iowa & NH would be very hard to knock over.
Huckabee is the joker in that scenario. If FDT/Mitt loses steam then Huck could step into the breach. If he does, Rudy should make him VP as a reward.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
JayPe, how do you figure Rudy needs a multi-way race to win?
When polls ask about Rudy v Fred, Rudy v Mitt, and Rudy v Jmac, Rudy wins by 15-30 point margins.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Huckster on the VP slot: “I’m not even running for vice president. I will only say this: It is the job nobody wants and nobody turns down.â€
What a great quote. So true.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Metro why do you assume those polls mean anything?
Most voters are unaware of Rudy’s liberal social stances. I’m not saying Rudy would lose in a two way race. What I’m saying is anyone who thinks polls tell the future is an idiot.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
Metro (#3) I was going on the article from Rasmussen.
It would be fair to say that if Rudy is sitting at 30% with Mitt & FDT at 20% each – then a Mitt win in Iowa would probably consolidate a fair chunk of the vote for whom issues like abortion are of primary importance.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:13 pm
EGS, most voters are unaware of who the VP is or many other basic facts and issues.
I jsut don’t buy the most voters don’t know argument.
Perhaps they don’t but most of them will remain blissfully unaware
Whoever cares about it knows by now.
At every debate, every article, every tv piece, just about anything on the GOP nomination, it’s been mentioned.
Polls don’t tell the future but I’d be rather be 20 up than 20 down
October 11th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
A point worth remembering is that once voting starts, people like to coalesce around the consensus candidate.
- Fiscal conservatives who currently support Rudy will be quite happy to switch to Mitt (in particular, given his background) or FDT.
- “terrorism conservatives” will mainly stick with Rudy, but would stomach FDT or Mitt.
- social conservatives will not stomach Rudy. They will support Mitt, FDT, Huckabee & possibly even Sam somebody (Brownback? hard to remember him, I keep falling asleep) to stop Rudy getting in.
So this state of affairs puts Rudy at a disadvantage. Sure he can still win it, and the longer the socon vote splits the better, but the odds are stacked against him. The last pro-choice candidate on the GOP side was Ford, the incumbent President.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
Also, did anyone else see that Tommy Thompson may be Rudy’s big endorsement tomorrow?
Who cares?
I hope for Rudy’s sake he has someone bigger than that
October 12th, 2007 at 12:16 am
Thanks for the Huckabee section!
October 12th, 2007 at 1:42 am
David Frum’s endorsement of Rudy is one the best endorsement quote for Rudy that I’ve seen:
“Mayor Rudy Giuliani has proven himself the most supremely effective public executive of our times. He has shown courage, character, and conviction under the most ferocious pressure.
“He has solved problems that were previously thought hopeless and achieved successes that others dismissed as impossible. He has made government work – and he has shown that he understands government’s limits.
“As a conservative, I know Rudy Giuliani shares my values. As a former New York City taxpayer, I have seen that he respects the dollars entrusted to him. And as a father, I trust him to keep my family safe from threat and danger.”
http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTFmMjM1YTg1YTI4ODNmNjcwMDNiYjE3MmM2N2EwZWM=
October 12th, 2007 at 8:01 am
Frum is just another unperfected jew. I am rather sick of having our foreign policy and now our domestic politics dictated by Tel Aviv.
People are afraid to speak up for fear of being called anti-semitic, but starting today do this simple test. Pay attention to who is bringing you the news and who is controlling our policy and economy. From my observations, NBC, for example, is completely in the hands of jews. The executives, the reporters, and especially their cable outlets (MSNBC and CNBC). Is it therefore surprising that you rarely hear negative news about Isreal or jews. Isn’t it news that a small population controls some of the largest media outlets (NBC, LA Times, NY Times, and Disney, Viacom, hell most of hollywood).
People will say that jews just work hard and are smart. Well, that is true, but they also practice exclusionary policies. When they take over a business they bring fellow jews in and exclude white christians. That is certainly how it works in the media and on wall street.
Of course this is a rant and sounds hateful. It is difficult to attack any group without sounding this way. But it doesn’t mean its not true and the facts bear me out.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:58 am
12. PabloZed
Who cares if you “sound” hateful.
I object to your public polluting ignorance and retardness.
Still, what do you think it is about the Jews? How do all those “controlling” Jews at NBC, for example, get one over on their bosses at GE?
Did you lose a job to a Jew? It likely wasn’t because the Jews practice exclusionary policies, it’s likely the person doing the hiring saw you for the sick fuck you admit to being.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:56 am
PabloZed,
You are an ignorant foolish hateful anti-Semite. You are obviously so insecure and so idiotic that you have to make yourself feel better by hating other people.
Get a life. I hope you get banned from the site for your hateful rhetoric.
October 12th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
I was watching the C-Span broadcast of the authors of the new book about the jewish lobbying group AIPAC and they were decribing the attacks they received. Not on their book, but on them personally just as is the case here. But such nonsense does not offend me because it highlights the inability of opponents to argue the facts. I did not pick NBC out of the blue; I researched. Its not anti-semitic to point out facts and statistics.
October 12th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
I want to add another thought I had which we may have to take into consideration. We have quite a few idiotic voters out there in our country (Paris Hilton, anyone?). As such, they may see just two New Yorkers who, to them, are the same. What could serve as a tie-breaker for them is what is most obvious to them — woman vs man. Do we need to guess which way they will go? Again, this and my post in #16 only matter if we are talking about a close election race between Hillary and Rudy, and so far, I have seen all indications that this could be Bush vs Gore all over again. Unlikely the polls from earlier this year, more and more polls recently shows that it will be more of a fight than coast for Rudy to win this election. If that is the case, we could use every advantage, however minor they are. This is something to consider.
October 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Sorry, I did not finish my post in #17. This is something to consider, will Rudy be the man who could seize upon those advantages, every single one of them? I am not sure he is, anymore. I am questioning the reality of his electability, especially when we put him side to side with Hillary. What will the general public see? Will his 9/11 image be enough to override the glory of Bill Clinton?
October 12th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
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October 14th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
SGS, would you really say that Paris Hilton isn’t intelligent?