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While Rudy Giuliani’s firewall in Florida is undoubtedly being put to the test, this is now the second reputable poll in the past two days to expose Rasmussen’s recent Sunshine State survey as an inaccurate outlier. [Hey Drudge, where are your flashing sirens?]
- Rudy Giuliani 25% (31%)
- Mike Huckabee 21% (9%)
- John McCain 15% (13%)
- Mitt Romney 13% (12%)
- Fred Thompson 10% (13%)
- Ron Paul 4% (4%)
- Tom Tancredo 2% (2%)
- Duncan Hunter 1% (1%)
- Undecided 9% (14%)
Survey of 468 likely Republican primary voters was conducted December 14-16. The margin of error is +/- 3 percentage points. Results from the poll conducted November 9-11 are in parentheses.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
I wouldn’t call this a good poll. It is far different than the other polls that showed Romney at 23% and 19%, respectively. This poll always seems to be behind the curve – always 3-4 weeks behind.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
Mitt Romney photo at a planned parenthood event:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/romney-attended.html
December 18th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
either way it shoes that rudy is screwed. a four point lead is hardly a firewall my firend.
good luck keeping that in tact if you don’t win a single early state. lol, nice strategy rudy. it sfalling apart right in front of his eyes and instead of competing he runs away.
if i were a rudy fan, i would be very worried that my strategy depends upon how others do in early states.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
2, why is htat news. its no secrete he was prochoice. get over it.
whether it is off or not, it confirms rudy’s decline in florida, his only chance of winning the nomination. that is the story here. a fourt point lead, a 2 points lead or being in third place, take your pick of any poll. noen of them are good news for rudy.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Um, folks, by FL it is not an 8-man race.
Rudy does better the closer it gets to a 2-man race.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
front page piece on Romney at Drudgereport. What a crybaby…
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071218/D8TJHR480.html
December 18th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Here’s Huckabee crying to the media. Please leave me alone and don’t point out my record. It’s the holiday season.
http://cameron.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/12/18/huckabee-calls-rival-attacks-despicable/
December 18th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Bill Clinton said he and Bush 41 will tour the world “repairing” the US image. This is insulting to Bush 43, but I haven’t seen much push back.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Um, this poll has a margin of error of +/- 3 points, which means you have to consider Huckabee and Giulini virtually tied by this poll.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
dubious,
The story is that Rasmussen released a Florida poll this past Friday in which Giuliani was in third place, trailing Huckabee by eight percentage points.
Both the SurveyUSA and Strategic Vision polls show Giuliani with five and four point leads, respectively. That Rasmussen’s data on Giuliani deviates by 13, or 12 percentage points from two other reputable firms is newsworthy.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
Rasmussen always is a bad poll for Giuliani.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Blake, Romney used to be pro-choice. He’s now pro-life. Where have you been this past year?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
I would trust a Rasmussen Poll over either a SurveyUSA or Strategic Vision Poll. This is a view that has been borne out historically.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
Again…sad if the biggest hit piece against Romney is stuff that happened 13 years ago and to which as Governor he ACTED the opposite of those past views.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
#11 except for the 6 months where he lead it every day by double-digit margins. Sorry folks, Rasmussen has an excellent track record. The last few cycles demonstrate that it is ALL the other polls who are outliers, not Ras.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
The difference places dount in the Rasmussen poll, but Rasmussen may be correct in the trend.
Well the Giuliani camp must know more than these polls show for him to pull out almost completely from NH and the few early states he attempted to compete in and focus solely on FLA. That act tells me more than any of the polls!
December 18th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
Question: Why do you think conservatives DONT support Rudy? Could it be because he is pro-choice, anti-gun and pro-gay marriage? So, as it becomes a “2-man race” as we get closer to Florida, by what rationale do you assume Rudy will capture the support of more conservative candidates who drop out of the race? Fred Thompson is going to be the first of the real candidates to drop…do you really think his support going to go to Rudy? As he has declined in the polls, where has Thompson’s support gone so far? Not Rudy. It’s gone to Huckabee. McCain will be the next to drop out. Where is his support going to go? Rudy? Nope. Is Rudy going to prevail in Florida after the support of Thompson and McCain coalesces behind Huckabee?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
McCain support will likely go to Rudy, not Huckabee. And yet Paul you forget, when Huck drops out after losing Iowa, NH, Michigan and Nevada, where does his support go…not Rudy. But likely Mitt. So if Rudy is one of the two men left, it is likely to be with Mitt, or it will be Mitt and Huck.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
Paul S,
Not only is Giuliani NOT pro-gay marriage, but he opposes New Hampshire’s and New Jersey’s civil union laws, and will support a federal marriage amendment if activist judges proceed to legalize same-sex marriage in several states.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
#17- Paul “coalesces behind Huckabee”?
I think those who are going to coalesce around Huckabee have already done so. He has peaked in all the polls now. The rest are conservatives who care about more than just social conservatism but fiscal conservatism as well.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Paul S, Rudy’s led among conservatives in most polls, in the crosstabs.
Every time (or just about) there’s been a 2-man poll between Rudy and another Republican, he’s won by about 55/45 margins, often 60/40.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
I found this interesting: Huck is running on a fusion of religion, populism, and I-talk-slick-don’t-look-to-close personality cult. Go to the official Huckabee blog and most of the comments by his supporters are variations of “pray for Huckabee and God will work miracles in his candidate,” “let’s stick it to the rich guys,” and “I get warm fuzzies when I hear Huckabee talk.” The funny part is that many of supporters are excited that Huckabee is fighting against “Country Club Republicans,” yet they do not realize is that Huckabee himself is “Country Club Republican.” Huckabee is a member of the Chenal Valley Country Club, the Little Rock Club, Pleasant Valley Country Club, the Country Club of Little Rock, Maumelle Bass Club and the Old Fishing Club. Read for yourself:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/12/magazine/16huckabee.html?pagewanted=9&hp
How is it that the one candidate that is running as God’s candidate and the anti-rich candidate is the most corrupt, fattest cat of the bunch?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
ilfigo,
Interesting that your predictions for Iowa and Michigan don’t follow what the polls are saying. Last poll I saw had Huckabee tied for first in Michigan, despite the fact that is Romney’s home town and his dad was Governor there…and also despite the fact that Huckabee has spent zero time and zero budget there. Nobody expects Huckabee to win New Hampshire or Nevada…all he needs to do is be competitive in those places, which he will be. If you think Huckabee is going to lose Iowa, you are simply delusional. So, after Huckabee wins Iowa handily, outperforms expectations in Michigan (maybe even wins it) and wins South Carolina, do you really think he’s going to drop out? Really? Especially when he’s polling first in Florida, the Southern bloc, Missouri and Texas?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
steve,
Then why werent they behind Guiliani already?
Paul
December 18th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
Paul S, you everestimate the appeal of Huckabee by those who do not currenty support him. Most conservatives are defence and fiscal consevatives who oppose Huckabee more than any others.
If you were to do a “which one of these is not like the others” test, the odd man out would be Huckabee. He brings only one leg of our conservative stool to the table. At least Rudy brings two legs.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Huckabee, Romney and Thompson are going to bludgeon each other to death leaving
December 18th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
#25 – that is why Huck has peeked or is coming down in most polls now.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Huckabee brings people to the table who have never participated before — Watch it happen.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
aron, whether he is down 12 or up 5 or 4, he is still plummeting. that is my point. what is good about that? his 30 point lead is narrowing to an almost dead heat. how is that good when it is supposed to be your firewall?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
#28 – thats a graet point. but the fact is we dont want liberals in our party.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
anyone that hinks american saftey for 6 years straigh is “bunker mentality” is not a conservative thinker.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
i rarely here reasoned arguments about how huckabee will win. Paul S may have just finally posted something that somewhat makes sense.
huck’s populist approach may fly very well in michigan.
also i think he will get a fair share of mccain votes. he is the new ‘mavrick’ and has a lot f the same positions that mccain does.
i doubt huck will do well in nevada. i also don’t think he will win south carolina, but thta is mere speculation. i imagine most of huck’s wind is taken out by him coming in low in new hampshire. i can see his supports abandoning him for electability and ‘issue’ issues.
if huck blows out everybody in iowa, new hampshire and many others will be looking to someone that can stop him. who will that be? i say romney. national review, david keene, paul wyrich types will lead the rally to get around to stop hickabee, sorry another typo, huckabee.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
i would honestly be shocked if hte gop nominated huck. i really would be. the question is, wh does he give the nod to. therer are two scenarios where it helps romney and hurts giuliani and one where it hurts romney and helps giuliani.
i don’t think mccain or fred have a shot at a win. they just have a shot at muddling things up.
in the end, this will probably come down to ta rudy romney race again. ???
but who can say, this race is upsdie down right now. it is WIDE OPEN. anybody really could win.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
#28 – Paul, you said, “Huckabee brings people to the table who have never participated before – Watch it happen.”
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I had to laugh at your comment, Paul.
I can see this picture of a big table with Huckabee at the head, the Devil to his right, Bill & Hillary Clinton to his left and sitting around the rest of the table, looking lovingly at the most Reverend Mike Huckabee, all his innocent, gullible, well-meaning evangelical supporters.
And what’s on the menu? Crow & Pink Kool-aide!
December 18th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
12 Richard P
I’m pro choice. I don’t go to planned parenthood events. I don’t give abortion rights organizations money.
I’m pro choice, not because I support abortion, but because I support freedom from Government intrusion into private lives.
Romney on the other hand seemed to have taken an interesting journey. From pro abortion to doctors should lose their licenses.
And this transformation was brought about when he thought of stem cells and forgot all about that relative who died because choice wasn’t available to her.
Coincidently, just as he was about to run as a neo SoCon.
How convenient for him. How gullible are his supporters.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
A Huckabee Administration has to be a let down.
He has God as a campaign manager but I doubt God wants to hang around to become his Chief of Staff.
On the other hand maybe Chick Norris will stay to become Sec Def.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Opinionated,
Your self-synopsis of pro-choice support of freedom from government intrusion is the same reason that Romney has always given.
The reason pro-choice groups in MA never really trusted him (remember multiple-choice-Mitt?) was that he believed abortion was the wrong choice. He had a record in his personal life of counseling people against abortion, and got hammered on it by the true pro-abortionists in MA who viewed abortion as the moral equivalent of getting your nails trimmed.
The conversion on “government intrusion” (Romney now supports it) has as a natural consequence that doctors performing an illegal procedure should be punished. The transformation was brought about when he saw how the Roe v Wade mentality towards life had resulted in a culture where new human life was being created for research.
When it came time for him to actually DO something, and not just support a philosophical position, Romney came down on the side of life as Governor.
Now don’t go calling people gullible for seeing how that is plausible. Your own candidate has made political transformations that are far less explained and far more recent.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Chuck Norris
December 18th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
37
What was he doing at pro abortion events? Why did his wife (do they file jointly) donate to them? Why did he take pride that his mother was pro choice from way back?
December 18th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
37 murphy
One more thing, on the subject of abortion, not choice, but abortion, I would bet the personal views of Romney, Giuliani, Thompson, even Bush, are nearly identical.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
Liberals are really getting dirty – with each other. I got this in an email from a friend who got it off a liberal blog. I think its offensive and deleted parts.
“I was surprised to learn that Hillary and Bill Clinton were campaigning in Iowa with someone many consider a murder. Ervin “Magic” Johnson contracted HIV through sexual transmission while a member of the LA Lakers. Many players, such as Utah forward Karl Malone, refused to play with Johnson for fear of contracting the virus. His teammate A. C. Green, who was practicing celibacy, spoke out forcefully against Johnson’s promiscuity, which Johnson admitted. It was never revealed whether Johnson contacted the virus through heterosexual or homosexual means. Johnson eventually retired.
Through various interviews Johnson has revealed that he has had unprotected sex with possibly hundreds of women who were “groupees” and that many of these women where young, innocent white girls who were curious about black men. Johnson often bragged how he “ravaged” these girls and never wore protection because he knew they liked it that way.
Given that Johnson did not detect his infection right away, it is certain that he had unprotected sex with some of these young girls while infected and most assuredly infected them as well. I have not heard any attempt by Johnson to contact these girls to warn them or to help with their medical expenses while he has enjoyed the best case money can buy. I find his conduct appalling and I am ashamed that Hillary Clinton finds it appropriate to parade around Iowa with an AIDS-infected monster (because of his infecting innocent girls, not because of HIV). I am sure she would feel differently if it had been Chelsea.”
December 18th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Being only up in five points in the only state that you lead and in a primary which takes place after several primaries you will likely lose is not a great position to be in. I think Rudy may have lost his frontrunner status (if he ever had it), he’s tied nationally and losing most early states.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
39, That’s all been discussed as much as neccesary if You’re going to believe Mitt You’ll believe, if you can’t believe him you won’t – its old news.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Has it occurred to anyone that Rudy may be sitting pretty?
The early primaries will be ugly and negative, unquestionably. He takes himself out of the ugliness, sitting to the side — or perhaps, above.
Huckabee and Romney will be torn apart by the time FL arrives, and Rudy will not have dirtied himself one bit.
To the extent they are dirtied earlier than FL, Rudy is poised in all of those states to exceed expectations.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
Opinionated, let me see.
1. Romney was attending a pro-abortion-rights event because he was pro-abortion-rights.
2. Mrs. Romney donated to Planned Parenthood because she was pro-abortion rights.
3. Romney was proud of his pro-abortion rights mother because he was pro-abortion-rights.
As for the personal beliefs of each candidate being the same on abortion, I doubt it. Even when Romney was politically pro-choice, he got dragged through the coals in MA because he counseled people against it. Rudy said he’d personally finance his own daughter’s abortion on his own grandchild. Even when Romney was politically pro-choice, he opposed government subsidizing of abortion. Rudy is currently in favor of government subsidies for abortion.
Romney has been completely forthright about his political conversion for the last two years, and he has backed it up with action in office. Would you like to contrast that test of conversion with your candidate on several issues?
December 18th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
39
It’s not old news. At least to me. Because the issue for me is not whether Romney is pro or anti choice. I don’t really care. A President doesn’t have much effect on the issue.
The issue for me that remains constant every single day and will continue- even if he is elected- is whether he, shall we say, is less then truthful, for expedient reasons.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Metro,
Yes, Rudy will be sitting very nice and clean, and trailing woefully behind in the Feb 5 states. If your guy wasn’t afraid of a few elbows, he might stand a chance.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
axel. that was the last thing i wanted to read today. seriously.
metro, nice wishful thinking there. the glass is always half full right.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
one could also say that by the time florida comes around kerik will be in jail and rudy will go down as the guy who nominated a criminal to be homeland secretary. there are some strong terrorist credentials for you.
rudy won’t be irrelevant by florida, he will have alread bloodied himself, at that will be news in and of itself.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
#48 – dubious
- I can hear metro now after another candidate is nominated,”there is a chance of a plane wreck and Rudy will be right there to pick up the pieces and take the nomination that he has deserved all along” and then he’ll site some plane crash statitcs that back up this possibility.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Rudy’s strategy is brilliant. Its really pretty simple he loses all the early states and by doing this he greatly lowers expectation. As soon as he loses the perfect number of elections he’s blitz states with these amazing ads that show him winning battles in NYC that nobody knew he fought – and believe me people are really going to care about local NYC politics. He will start winning states which will absolutely shock people so much that they will vote for him just out of the pure shock of seeing him win he lost so many states. He takes someone like Rudy to see the brilliance of losing all the early states!
December 18th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
49
Giuliani, of course, didn’t nominate anyone, and as McCain resurrects himself, it may doom Giuliani campaign.
None of that changes the fact that of the nominees, only Romney has a trail of lying, sorry, changing his mind depending on political venue and ambition. Also it seems a trail of tears. Boy, but he cries, sorry, gets misty eyed, easy.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
dubious,
Except now for Rudy the class is only like a quarter full…
Steve,
LOL!
December 18th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
My prediction:
Huckabee takes out Romney in Iowa, then goes bust on Super Tuesday.
The end result, Rudy wins big on Super Tuesday.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Rejecting any conversion to the Pro – Life movement is a real great way to advance the movement.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
#51, Are you serious?
December 18th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
OOPS forgot to change the “RudyBot”
December 18th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
What, you don’t see the brilliance of losing all the early states? You must not be capable of empiracle objective reasoning.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Rudy guys/gals,
Most people have acknowledged that Rudy’s plan will be a bust. The poll numbers continue to reflect that.
After the first couple of states, people will be jumping ship at record numbers.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Michael Reichard you’re ignoring intrade numbers. Everybody who’s capable of doing objective reasoning knows that intrade numbers are more valuable than any polling numbers.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Wasn’t aware that Rudy losing 20% of his support was a good thing… especially when Huckabee more than doubles his and McCain and Romney both move up as well.
But, anything that will keep Rudy guys from jumping off the ledge, I suppose.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
i can’t tell if thatrudybot is serious or not. i think he’s joking but after hearin gmetor make commenst like “As soon as he loses the perfect number of elections he’s blitz states with these amazing ads that show him winning battles in NYC that nobody knew he fought” which he made, i actually believe people can think things like that.
pretending he is serious, rudy’s ads are a bust. everybody knows what he did and most are tired of hearing about it. his ads have virtually zero impact. maybe negative actually.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
rudy is imploding. just ask anybody. he needs a miracle. i hate to say something like this evne hypothetically but he needs like a terrorist attack to happen right before Florida comes around. barring something like that, he is looking quite battered.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Not-so-Smart-People don’t like to go where there are Smart-People.
I predict that the Smart-People of Iowa go to the Caucuses, as in actually show up, more so than the Not-so-Smarts (You know, uncomfortable….).
Huckabee’s vote is right now OVER-estimated in the polls…
Romney’s is UNDER-estimated in the polls…..
THE HUCK-A-BUST is Coming…….Jan. 3rd!!
December 18th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
i wouldn’t count him out yet though. things could get muddled up coming inot florida. while those florida numbers are sure to change before the end of january, it is POSSIBLE, likely, no, but possible.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
“## John Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
OOPS forgot to change the “RudyBot—
Oh, God, you stupid moron, not only do you copy my schtick (which I copied from Awakened), but you too forget to change back your name!
December 18th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
If Giuliani is rejected he will join an illustrious company. Examples that the best man doesn’t necessarily win.
The Democrats rejected Scoop Jackson in 1972.
The Republicans rejected Reagan in 1976.
Republicans rejected McCain in 2000.
Democrats rejected Lieberman in 2004.
Such is life. The better man doesn’t always win, even place.
A reason why there are so few great Presidents.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Opinionated,
Yes, you are quite right. He will join a large collection of losers. I wouldn’t include Reagan in that last though because winning is about coming back from the losses to triumph as he did. McCain,…Yeah he can stay on the list. Lieberman is debatable though.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
I really think that we are about to witness a precipitous decline in support for Huck. I think that his Holiday message commercial was way too exclusionary and that it should have included a greeting for people with a Jewish faith tradition and the Muslim religion. I think that Huck using the term, “Christ” along with the other overtly Christian symbols in his message will backfire and that many constituents will find it borderline offensive.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Abe, what do you know that we don’t know about the poll numbers?
I am aware that Huckabee is the Dem’s favorite – but can they manipulate the polls?
Whassup?
December 18th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
Opinionated 52…are you kidding me??
Giuliani: Abortion, Guns, etc.
McCain: Immigration
Huck: Taxes, Immigration, etc.
December 18th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
TLG, well you provide the service for the RomBots, so I have to provide a service for RudyBots. BTW, its kind of amusing the people who don’t get that its parody. I mean you would think that calling myself a “Bot” and that my real name is in parathesis would give it away. Oh well.
December 18th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Beth,
There is a REAL Difference between…..
The Dates – Dec. 18th and Jan. 3rd….
And What people say on the phone and What people do….
And Smart-Iowa-people and Not-so-Smart-Iowa-people…..
And Organized-Organization and Non-Organized-Organization….
And Months-Long-Supporter (Tested) and Flavor-O-the-Day-Supporter (Not-Tested)….
And Anti-Huck-Negative-Media-Wave and No-Anti-Romney-Media-Wave (he had his 3-6-9 months ago)……
Just a few differences….
And I could go on….
December 18th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
Forgive us for not knowing who “John” is. like i said, metro actually says stuff like that. you can’t nkow that people aren’t crazy.
December 18th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
3 things:
1. a TOUGH TOUGH race ahead in 08.
2. huckabee strongest in Missouri
3. and mccain’s the strongest overall:
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/12/new_polls_test_electability_of_hillary_vs_obama_in_five_states.php
December 18th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
The Wall Street Journal to endorse McCain?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110011007
oh, let it be!!!
December 18th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Rudy is down but not-out. Rudy’s polls took a hit when Fred entered the race. If Fred fares poorly in SC and Iowa, I can see him dropping out – or his support going back to Rudy (or McCain). Similarly, if McCain finishes a distant second in NH and fares poorly in SC, I can see his support going to Rudy or the non-Huckabee. Romney may take the non-Huckabee position, but even in a a 3 way race, I think Rudy has a decent chance in Florida. Seeing how Rudy has taken a late state strategy and made it public, unless the media truly fears a Rudy-candidancy, I think Rudy stays viable until January 29th (barring any more bad news – Kerik holds up a 7-11, Judith Nathan wears a tiara to a fundraiser).
December 18th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
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December 18th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Libertarians will bitch and moan, but in the end they’ll back the most libertarian-leaning GOP candidate. And that’s Rudy (to a lesser extent Fred Thompson too.)
Ron Paul’s support will most likely go to Rudy after the first few primaries. Particularly in Florida. Paul is not strong in Florida. And the Paulists there, aren’t as anti-Rudy as they are in other states like New Hampshire.
Ditto for California and Texas. Watch Paul supporters go to Rudy in the end.