December 20, 2007

Tancredo drops out, endorses Romney

So says MSNBC.

UPDATES:

“At a news conference, Tancredo said he did not agree with Romney on all issues, but believes that the governor has a “solid record” on immigration issues and can “go the distance.” link

Cillizza:

Tancredo’s biggest impact on the field came as he bowed out of a contest that he never had any real chance of winning. Tancredo had made tough stand on immigration the centerpiece and organizing principle of his campaign, and his endorsement of Romney could prove a powerful validator of the former governor’s bona fides on the issue.

Jim G.:

How’s that for a response to the “Sanctuary Mansion” line: “How much of an immigration squish can I be, I was endorsed by Tancredo!”

by @ 3:25 pm. Filed under Mitt Romney, Tom Tancredo
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144 Responses to “Tancredo drops out, endorses Romney”

  1. Joe M Says:

    Political games. There is NOTHING about Tancredo that matches his personality to Romney. He must be looking for a job.

  2. Jason Says:

    That’a boy Tom!

  3. Matthias Says:

    makes sense. Probably adds about 2% to the Romney camp.

  4. Abe Says:

    So King goes to Fred….

    Tancredo goes to Romney…

    Maybe Tanc….was a little peeved….

    About King not endorsing him…afterall

    Or Tancredo just really wants to be with a winner…

  5. Abe Says:

    Anyway, SWEET…if this is Correct..

    I totally blew it before about the King endorsement…

  6. Jared Says:

    Also confirmed by the Des Moines Register

    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071220/NEWS/71220020/1001

  7. barnes Says:

    Good, this will a change in the power rankings on this site, which needs re-adjusting.

  8. MellowFellow Says:

    That’s good news for Romney. Iowans pay attention to immigration, I’m told.

  9. Jared Says:

    #1 - “There is NOTHING about Tancredo that matches his personality to Romney”

    Tancredo has a personality? That is the real news story of the day here ;)

  10. MarkG Says:

    What a great boost. Now Mitt can be sure to have the added backing of that unique class of voters widely described as “negligible” and “statistically insignificant.”

  11. Psycheout Says:

    Blah. You beat me to it by minutes.

    Curses, foiled again!

  12. Abe Says:

    Once again, the Huckster is left out of the Endorsement game….

  13. Michael Reichard Says:

    The endorsment will be worthless, ask Fred about how much endorsments help.

  14. Iowa Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAH WHAT A JOKE…. TANCREDO NEEDS TO GET THOSE ILLEGALS OUT OF ROMNEY’S LAWN…

    TANCREDO = JOKE

  15. Joe M Says:

    Jerd #9 - - certainly more than Mitt (or, at least you can figure it out)

  16. Michael Reichard Says:

    Endorsments used to mean alot more than they do this cycle.

  17. Iowa Says:

    TOM TANCREDO ON ROMNEY:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-aVbmEMswk

  18. Jared Says:

    #10

    At this point even 1-2% can make all the difference in Iowa. I would laugh if Mitt won by 1% and those “statistically insignificant” voters make Huckabee a statistically insignificant “also ran” for POTUS in 2008. HA!

  19. Michael Reichard Says:

    #17, All of his supporters will not flock to Romney.

  20. jcali Says:

    # 10
    LOL.

    By the way, after tancredo, which candidate has taken the toughest stand on immigration?

  21. Jared Says:

    Also hilarious how all of you other candidates supporters would be praising Tancredo had he endorsed your guy.

  22. Michael Reichard Says:

    I appreciate his views on securing the border, but his endorsment of anyone would not be that significant.

  23. Jared Says:

    #20 - Duncan Hunter

  24. MarkG Says:

    18: All of his supporters will not flock to Romney.

    All? Don’t you mean “both”?

  25. Tom the Tanc Thanks and Tanks Out « Blogs 4 Brownback Says:

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  26. IAHawk Says:

    Tancredo supporters were most likely standing on principle. Now Tom is looking for a job. I don’t see a 2% surge to Mitt based on this endorsement.

  27. Axel G. (independent) Says:

    Any endorsement (as long as person isn’t a nazi) is good, but I would like them to make sense. I don’t get this one. But it won’t keep me awake at night.

  28. jcali Says:

    Meanwhile, democrats are anxiously awaiting the all-important Dennis Kuccinich endorsement.

  29. steve Says:

    When I first came to this site arguments were rational and interesting. THe logic and reason behind saying things anymore seems like it has gone out the door.

    Tancredo is a good endorsement. Its OK to admit that even if you don’t support Romney.

    Its not worth being here if we can’t hold rational conversations.

  30. Psycheout Says:

    Actually this endorsement does make sense in a perverse kind of way. Both hired illegals.

  31. Psycheout Says:

    Oh heck, two links are verboten. I’m in moderation hell.

    The endorsement makes sense, in a warped way. Both The Tanc and The Mittster hired illegals.

    Tancredo hired illegals.

  32. Psycheout Says:

    Mitt hired illegals.

  33. jcali Says:

    Is there any proof that endorsements actually help canditates? Charles Krauthemer has often ridiculed all the celebrity endorsements trying to point out that they never raise a candidate’s numbers, but does that also extend to politicians.

    Are there any gung ho tancredo supporters who will now vote for Romney now that Tancredo has endorsed him?

    I for one know that if my favorite candidate pulled out and endorsed someone else, my support would definitel not be automatic.

  34. John Mark ( formerly known as John) Says:

    I suppose the Tanc endorsement is good, but I wish the party was at a point where it wasn’t any good

  35. jcali Says:

    #31:
    I think any objective person would view that as an overstatement of fact. I thought he just hired a company, and the company employed the illegals?

  36. steve Says:

    30 -Psycheout - its people like you I bring up #29. ROmney hired a landscape company not illegals. The spin for spin sake is getting real old.

  37. Bryan Says:

    So Tancredo is going to critizize Mitt Romney in every debate b/c he hired Illegal Aliens to work in his lawn and then he is going to Endorse Him?? Tancredo is crazy and i’ve lost all my respect for this man, absolutely rediculous that he is doing this, rediculous!!

  38. Jared Says:

    George Will hammers Huckabee in this article:

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GeorgeWill/2007/12/20/retro_campaigning

    That’s GOTTA hurt!

  39. Bryan Says:

    Romney Hired Illegal Aliens Folks!! Get over it! Its True! He’s the biggest Flip Flopper to come out of Mass. since John Kerry!!!

  40. Opinionated Says:

    Take a glance at Freerepublic where Tancredo had fans. See if they will be flocking to Romney. Maybe sometime after they stop insulting Tancredo.

    Of course most of them there live in some alternate universe, but still it gives some clue.

  41. PeterS Says:

    who cares. Mitt is finished…he doesn’t lead anywhere, losing in Iowa, South Carolina, letting McCain catch him in NH, nowhere nationally except for 1 random poll.

  42. Henry Heavner Says:

    Kucinich will also endorse Romney. Romney has promised him he can be the director of the Bureau of Crop Cirlce sin the Department of Peace.

  43. Bryan Says:

    No Tancredo supporter in their right mind would vote for Romney, this is pointless and Tancredo is a Coward!

  44. Henry Heavner Says:

    Bzzzt. Wrong.

  45. Jonathan Says:

    So the Tanc goes for Romney? I thought he was going to go for his fellow Congressman Duncan Hunter, than at least one of them could get above 2% in any poll

  46. Bryan Says:

    And not to mention Mitt Romney has spent Millions and Millions of dollars, and where has it got them? You cant buy votes Romney, not in Iowa, NH, Michigan, or South Carolina. Its over for you Mittens!!

  47. Matt C Says:

    This is good for Romney - it gives him instant cred on the immigration issue for Iowans, especially since Tancredo made this announcement in Iowa where it will play all over the local news.

    And any time there’s an endorsement, everyone plays the endorsement game: if your candidate got the endorsement, you post a comment saying why it is so important, and if your candidate doesn’t get it, you post why it’s no big deal and endorsements suck (except for the ones your guy gets).

    It’s unfortunate, but it’s politics.

  48. Jared Says:

    I agree with steve. This site is quickly going down hill in terms of people rationally discussing the election and the candidates (as evidenced by Bryan, and the rest of those that have a pure HATRED for Romney) Funny to note too, that the downhill slide on this site in terms of commentary started when Huckabee started to climb. I wonder if it has anything to do with the intellectual capabilities of Huck supporters? And before you Huckabee supporters get your panties in a wad, prove me wrong by posted a civilized thought)

  49. Illinoisguy Says:

    Tancredo’s campaign manager was Bay Buchanan. If she also supports Mitt, maybe Pat will too, now that she is supporting someone who can win. Pat was very impressed with Mitt’s speech.

  50. Bryan Says:

    Well when Tancredo has only been polling under 2%, i dont think it will help him to much. Getting every Newspaper endorsement in NH and getting endorsed by Joe Lieberman and Henry Kissinger, Now those are Endorsements that matter! Those are endorsements that will help your campaign

  51. Abe Says:

    GEORGE WILL on the HUCKSTER:

    “Huckabee’s role in this year’s ’70s Show is not merely to attempt to revise a few Republican beliefs. He represents wholesale repudiation of what came after the 1970s — Reaganism.”

    !!!OUCH!!!

  52. Jonathan Says:

    Jared don’t you know that to his supporters, Huckabee is the 13th long lost apostle and any claims against him are heresy. Burn the witch

  53. jcali Says:

    Does anyone actually know a real tancredo supporter? Did he have any real support or was it just neighbors and relatives?

    If so, who do they plan to vote for now?

  54. Abe Says:

    # 47 Jared,

    You’ll be waiting a long time….

  55. Bryan Says:

    Jared,

    “as evidenced by Bryan, and the rest of those that have a pure HATRED for Romney” Sometimes the Truth hurts Jared, i’m pointing out factual things about Mitt Romney and exposing who he really is, why else are his numbers falling after spending millions and millions of dollars, we need smarter people on this site who actually use their brain!

  56. Axel G. (independent) Says:

    Why do Romney supporters hate christians and southerners?

  57. BarkTwiggs Says:

    To all those Huck-ites regarding immigration endorsements:

    I’ll see your Gilchrist and raise you a Tancredo.

  58. Jared Says:

    #51 - Geesh, It sure sounds that way by the tone of some Huckabee supporters posts. I think that is why I dislike Huckabee so much. His supporters are making it tough to give the guy any credit, not to mention his record. It is amazing to me the level of hatred towards Romney, and I don’t think I have read posts against other candidates that flat-out HATE the guy. They may disagree with their stances, but with Romney, it is pure hatred. Ridiculous! (Note the spelling Bryan) :)

  59. jcali Says:

    #47
    I agree to an extent. I enjoy a quick wit and snide remark as much as the next, but I grow weary of having to wade through comments that constitute the same old lame attacks (regardless of the candidate) in different packaging (see #31)

  60. cwpete Says:

    Well,

    This is good news for team Romney. Should help by next week’s polls.

  61. Jared Says:

    #55 - “Why do Romney supporters hate christians and southerners?”

    Show me something to back up your ludicrous claim. I don’t hate Christians, as I see myself as one of them, and I don’t hate southerners.

  62. Michael Reichard Says:

    Jared,

    Your appeal itself is dribble.

    This is the kind of comments that come from non-Huck supporters:
    “Jared don’t you know that to his supporters, Huckabee is the 13th long lost apostle and any claims against him are heresy. Burn the witch”-Jonathan

    #53, Abe…you shouldn’t be speaking on that issue.

  63. Michael Reichard Says:

    The bigger picture here is what the media will do with this. Will securing the border be considered rejected by the people?

  64. MindTheGap76 Says:

    I agree with those who are growing weary of the tone of the comments. It is pretty irritating to read the EXACT SAME commentary no matter what the post being commented on is. I was having the same problem with the partisan front page, but things seem to have been significantly cleaned up there recently.

  65. Chris Says:

    … And in other news, sour grapes has been found to bring irrational posters out of the woodworks. Tancredo endorsed Romney because he is the best on immigration. If can’t give one bit of respect to the possibility of that fact, you have been sucked into your own spin zone.

  66. cwpete Says:

    Tancredo is polling 6% in IA, most of that should go to Romney.

  67. Jared Says:

    #54 - “why else are his numbers falling”

    Actually, if you had done a shred of research before you typed this, you would find that Romney’s numbers have not fallen at all. Geesh Bryan, do I need to think for you?? Look at the link below for proof.

    Nationally:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/charts/?poll_id=192

    Iowa:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_republican_caucus-207.html

    New Hampshire:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_primary-193.html

    In each of the above charts, you will see that Romney’s support has been fairly steady, and of late has actually been rising. When you said that we need smarter people on this site who actually use their brain, did you have yourself in mind there?? Just curious.

  68. Jared Says:

    #54 - “why else are his numbers falling�

    Actually, if you had done a shred of research before you typed this, you would find that Romney’s numbers have not fallen at all. Geesh Bryan, do I need to think for you?? Look at the link below for proof.

    Nationally:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/charts/?poll_id=192

  69. QuacknHack Says:

    55, that is an idiotic statement. I am not a Romney supporter, but I am southern and Christian. My dislike for Huckabee is because of his record on taxes, crime, immigration, ethics and this rediculous essay he wrote in foriegn affairs magazine.

    If the Huckster’s supporters applied the same standard which they apply to Romney on the abortion issue to Huckabee on taxes, immigration and crime they would drop Huck in 2 seconds. Hucks rhetoric in the campaign is not consistent with his record in AR.

    Just to prove I am not a Rombot, try this:

    The Romney campaign will end when Mrs. Romney says “Willard, just how much money have we spent on this thign?”.

  70. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    Great endorsement for Romney. I think this does something that can’t be quantified; it says to the people who liked Tanc’s position on immigration, but wouldn’t vote for him because he wasn’t viable, or because he was a sure loser in the general, that Romney is THE guy on immigration. That’s probably, in a state like Iowa where a counter of voters consider immigration the top issue, a pretty big boost. That said, I’m as surprised as everyone else that Mitt nabbed this endorsement. I suppose Tanc wanted “his guy” to have a real shot at the nomination, and Fred was looking increasingly weak? Maybe he simply realizes that Huck is the worst on immigration, and that he has a viable path to the nomination unless he can be stopped in Iowa? Who knows, but it’s undeniably a good result for Romney.

  71. Jared Says:

    Iowa:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_republican_caucus-207.html

  72. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    where a quarter of voters consider…*

  73. Jared Says:

    #54

    New Hampshire:.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_primary-193.html

    In each of the above charts, you will see that Romney’s support has been fairly steady, and of late has actually been rising. Bryan, when you said that we need smarter people on this site who actually use their brain, did you have yourself in mind there?? Just curious.

  74. Psycheout Says:

    Is there any proof that endorsements actually help canditates?

    Sure! Sean Penn endorsed Kookspinach and he’s doing really well now.

    Oh, wait.

  75. jcali Says:

    #62
    Alot of the “elite” republicans I think feel the immigration game is a losing hand for the republicans. At least they did so last year.

    A buddy of mine who worked up on Capitol Hill During last year’s election fiasco told me that alot of the staffers were blaming the GOP’s reluctance to pass some amnesty bill as a reason we lost so many seats. I heard this and told him I thought it was because the repubs were acting like libs once they got elected.

  76. Permabound Says:

    Bryan,
    Wait a minute…your clueless. Just because Mitt raised a plethora of money does not mean he is buying his bid. People gave him money and he intends to use it. That is OBVIOUS. You think that Mitt would not spend his money because he wouldn’t want clueless people like you thinking it would buy the presidency. WAKE UP!!! In fact every candidate is ‘buying the presidency”. They are spending money to become president. Oh and people like Jared help create decent conversations

  77. Greg Says:

    Romney hired a contractos who told hime time and again that he didm’t emply illegal aliens. There’s some fact for you.

  78. Michael Reichard Says:

    Wow..with all of the hot air blowing around in here, someone should try to determine this blog’s carbon footprint. We should condider becoming carbon nuetral.

  79. Psycheout Says:

    Geesh, It sure sounds that way by the tone of some Huckabee supporters posts. I think that is why I dislike Huckabee so much. His supporters are making it tough to give the guy any credit

    Can’t we all go back to just hating on the moonbat Ru Paul supporters? Those were the days. Memories…

  80. Michael Reichard Says:

    #75, So, your saying he is easily duped?

  81. Jared Says:

    #75 - Thanks Permabound. I just find it difficlut to stay above the fray when people slam a good man like Romney and don’t just attack his stance on the issues, but attack the man. I must admit to being guilty at attacking Huckabee the man, and I am wrong for doing that. ALL of the men running for the GOP nod are good men. Each of them has stregths and they each have their own weaknesses. I am tired of people posting tripe about a good person in Mitt Romney, and I have to believe it is because they either lack the IQ for an intelligent discussion on the issues, or they lack the humility to admit that there guy is not flawless.

  82. Jared Says:

    #78 - LOL

  83. jcali Says:

    So obviously, Tanc must get something out of this right, other than just some principaled position.

    Seriously, what’s his angle on this? So he endorses a more viable candiate than Hunter, what does he get? Is he essentially choosing the lesser of two evils so to speak, and if so, why bother with the whole endorseent thing in the first place?

    any insights?

  84. jcali Says:

    #76,
    I’ll sale you a carbon offset…real cheap.

  85. Michael Reichard Says:

    #80, I think he worked out a deal with Romney. He may have vied for some type of appointment to fix the border. He is not running for any political office.

  86. Jared Says:

    #82 - Axel posted that Romney had agreed to retire his campaign debt. I guess that might be an incentive for him to support Romney. Or he just agreed with Romney’s stances on other issues, and felt that Romney had a good shot. Either way, it is a good endorsement. All those that attack Romney for how he spends his money, should realize that the key word to that sentence is “HIS” money. He can spend it HOWEVER he chooses. :)

  87. QuacknHack Says:

    What do Robert Novak, George Will, Rich Lowry, Ann Coulter and Peter Wehner all have in common?

    The are all long time pro-life conservative writers and each has written a piece which state that Mike Huckabee is not a real conservative.

  88. Greg Says:

    How would Romney be able to find out if the guy used illegal aliens? He asked and was told “No”. They even asked again a few months ago, and the owner again said “No”. They were hispanic, so maybe Mitt should have just assumed they were illegal. Is this what you are suggesting?

  89. murphy Says:

    Tancredo’s statement:

    “The presidential campaign has come down to less than a handful of viable candidates. Unfortunately several of them have abysmal records on immigration and can’t be trusted to do what is needed to preserve this country if they’re elected,” Tancredo’s message said.

    “My fear is that if I were to stay in this race my votes could be the factor in handing victory to a pro-amnesty politician. Friends, we have done too much, come too far and the stakes are too high to play that hand. And so I am ending my presidential campaign,” he added.

    This is what I took from the news yesterday. Now’s the time to do it if his primary concern is illegal immigration itself. That the most ardent anti-amnesty candidate chose Romney over Huckabee, McCain, and Giuliani is only natural.

  90. Greg Says:

    Axel posted out of his _ss that Romney was paying for this endorsement.

  91. jcali Says:

    #83
    I’ve thought about the appointments but it just seems so blantantly obvious. I really don’t know much about Tancredo but I’m not sure if appointing the head of some immigration commission or what not would be all that effective, plus it would be an obvious political move.

    I wasn’t aware that Romney has a history of appointing cronies either so I still don’t really see the benefit.

  92. Axel G. (independent) Says:

    Some of you Rombotsmight take notice of yourselves and determine if your cultish allegiance to him makes others question his ability to be president. Suppose, for instance, he hires a bunch of sycophants like yourselves as advisors, people afraid or unwilling to tell him the truth. Isn’t that what we’ve had under Bush? Many of you are giving credence to that possibility. And I call it a cultish following because followers of cults regard their leaders are religious figures who they dare not criticize. That is a narrative that will play in many parts of the country.

  93. jcali Says:

    #90
    I think your analysis falls flat as I don’t think any can claim Romney has ever surrounded himself with “yes men.” In fact I think part of the whole Harvard Business School case methodology is to surround yourself with advocates of different views and foster debate amongst your staffers in an effort to reach the best conclusion.

    Romney’s got a ton of flaws, but I don’t think this is one of them.

  94. Jared Says:

    #91 - Axel, just when I thought you were starting to make sense on the issues, you prove my point from earlier posts regarding the nature of the discourse on this site.

  95. bethtopaz Says:

    This thread is not worth of race42008. It sounds like Free Republic - gossip, rumor, bigotry, hatred and innuendo.

    Where’s the substance?

  96. bethtopaz Says:

    Correction: This thread is not WORTHY …

  97. cwpete Says:

    Right you are bethopaz,

    I’ve noticed that the level of discourse on many threads here has really sunken low.

  98. Jared Says:

    Like I said earlier, the level of discourse took a turn for the worse as Huck took an upward trend in the polls. Coincidence??

  99. Abe Says:

    Hey, I’m not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere….

    But is McCain taking federal matching funds….

    And doesn’t that mean his campaign is basically over…

  100. Psycheout Says:

    This thread is not worth of race42008.

    Oh, you’re no fun anymore. Lighten up.

  101. RC Says:

    beth - I just got the same feeling. Everyone who doesn’t get the good news for “their guy” becomes upset. As a Mitt supporter - I like most of the top tier, with the exception of just one. And if Mitt doesn’t win - well fine, things like that can happen. The fanboyism around the blogosphere is getting worse and worse.

  102. Psycheout Says:

    Give it a rest, QuacknHack. I’m about to write a greasemonkey script that changes all your comments to “quack quack quack quack….”

    Because that’s all you ever seem to say.

  103. Psycheout Says:

    beth - I just got the same feeling. Everyone who doesn’t get the good news for “their guy� becomes upset. As a Mitt supporter

    Why do the Romney supporters complain the most? Mitt gets a lot of positive press here.

    To be fair, the Huckabee supporters complain too, but that’s probably got to do with there being zero Huckabee supporters who post on the front page, while Romney has a number of skilled writers who post in support of the guy.

    Less whining, please.

  104. jrcutler Says:

    i never thought i would say this, but i miss metro and all the rudy guys, at least they had intelligent arguments and defenses of their candidate. some here make sampo look fair and balanced!

  105. econ grad stud Says:

    Wasn’t Tancredo, one of the guys who raised his hand that he didn’t believe in evolution?

  106. IAHawk Says:

    With the candidates that are still running, who has the best position on the boarder?

  107. fredo Says:

    97 Abe…

    Yes, McCain is taking matching funds.

  108. UA Says:

    isn’t there a youtube video that has Tancredo grilling Romney over immigration? kinda surprised he went with mitt instead of fred.

  109. Greg Says:

    The Mittnots just resort to making stuff up to make themeselves feel better. This is a strong endorsement for Mitt in Iowa, and he will be smart to play it up. I’ll bet that we’ll see a commercial with Tancredo endorsing Mitt and speaking kindly about Mitt on illegal immigration.

  110. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    This is the most interesting race in decades, and I think Mitt Romney is an awfully good position at this point. He might lose, to be sure, but it’s not at all surprising that he’s now one of the two consensus candidate’s that have arisen. Rudy’s falling. Huck’s support is narrow. Fred can’t seem to get traction. And the serious people are finally recognizing that we need a relatively uniting nominee, and the only reasonable prospects are Romney and McCain. Ace of Spades, one of the guys who’s promised to happily vote for Hillary or Obama if Huckabee’s the nominee, has just decided that, barring some Fred miracle, Mitt’s his guy. This is a former Rudy guy, and a radical libertarian, not to mention an influential conservative blogger. I’ve seen similar sentiments expressed elsewhere. The chips are falling, and at the end of the day, the smart money is gravitating towards the two competent, across the board conservatives, who have campaigned most ardently.

  111. joe c Says:

    i think of all the remaining candidates, if they drop out, they will support john mccain. hunter will, huckabee would, thompson would, rudy is likely to. if john mccain himself drops out he will support in order of who’s left: 1.thompson, 2. huck, 3. rudy 4.every democrat 5. mitt romney 6. ron paul.

  112. jrcutler Says:

    well said…Lets unite the party and move on to the general.

  113. joe c Says:

    also - it appears mitt will tie Rudy on Intrade any time now. right now people are looking to buy romneys at 25.8, and looking to buy rudys at 27.3

  114. Lutie Says:

    I agree with #37 Jared someone should post this bit about Mike Lenin Huckabee

    Huckabee’s campaign actually is what Rudy Giuliani’s candidacy is misdescribed as being — a comprehensive apostasy against core Republican beliefs. Giuliani departs from recent Republican stances regarding two issues — abortion and the recognition by the law of same-sex couples. Huckabee’s radical candidacy broadly repudiates core Republican policies such as free trade, low taxes, the essential legitimacy of America’s corporate entities and the market system allocating wealth and opportunity. And consider New Hampshire’s chapter of the National Education Association, the teachers union that is a crucial component of the Democratic Party’s base.

    In 2004, New Hampshire’s chapter endorsed Howard Dean in the Democratic primary and no one in the Republican primary. Last week it endorsed Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary — and Huckabee in the Republican primary. It likes, as public employees generally do, his record of tax increases, and it applauds his opposition to school choice.

    Huckabee’s role in this year’s ’70s Show is not merely to attempt to revise a few Republican beliefs. He represents wholesale repudiation of what came after the 1970s — Reaganism.

  115. Jared Says:

    #109 - Regarding the Ace of Spades. Who is it? Or are you not able to disclose that?

  116. jcali Says:

    “and his endorsement of Romney could prove a powerful validator of the former governor’s bona fides on the issue.”

    Again, I guess endorsements help a little, but if you were a staunch immigration guy before, and had troubles with Romney, I don’t see how this will quelch any prior concerns you’ve had about him.

  117. SGS Says:

    Matt C (#46) You may have a point here. Tanc spent almost 100% of his time campaigning in Iowa for almost a year. And he pretty much is a one-issue candidate. You cannot build up the image of being so strongly against illegal immigration like him, and he has passed this image over to Mitt. That will certainly help Mitt, especially among the voters whose top issue is illegal immigration. There are some polls showing as high as 60% of Iowans considered this the top issue (this is not to say solo issue, but rank very high in importance). This will help Mitt to some degree.

  118. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    Jared,

    I have no idea. I just read the site (ace.mu.nu.com) I have little connections in the political world.

  119. Jared Says:

    I think that if you factor in this endorsement along with the fact that Jim Gilchrist was quoted as saying that he may “re-consider” his endorsement of Huckabee after finding out more about his propsed plan on illegal immigration, Mitt Romney gets the edge as the candidate who appears toughest on illegal immigration. This should squash the sanctuary mansion argument with a guy like Tancredo in his corner. I am not too familiar with the organization Tancredo has in Iowa, and you would think that support will only help Romney “get out the vote”.

  120. Jonathan Says:

    SGS: I agree to a certain extent; it helps Romney on the issue, but issues alone do not a caucus winner make. Turnout, the voters second choice (the whole 15% or lower and your dropped thing), and the most important thing no one talks about… the Weather. who wants to caucus when there is a blizzard outside or who doesn’t if it gets above freezing. Watch out for the weather, it could decide the Iowa caucuses more than any candidate

  121. SGS Says:

    QuacknHack (#85) Remember, we lost the battle of the meaning of true conservative. 21% from Iowa believes that Huckabee is the true conservative. ;)

  122. murphy Says:

    Jonathan,

    It was my understanding that the 15% threshold was only for the Democratic Iowa caucuses.

    As for the weather, I’m crossing my fingers for baseball sized hailstones.

  123. Jared Says:

    #117 - LOL. Oh I see!

    Thanks for the link to the site.

    I found this piece on the Huckabee reference to Frank Gaffney as his foreign affairs advisor.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orGCvzYsmuA

    It has to make you laugh that this “advisor” says that the view Huckabee is espousing is “cockamamie”.(sp)

  124. Jared Says:

    #119 - Good point about the weather factoring in. You would think that conditions such as that would only favor the candidate with the strongest organization in place. Having the strongest infrastructure with bad weather will be a key in getting the turnout needed.

  125. SGS Says:

    Jared (#117) One of Huckabee’s 4 endorers may reconsider endoring him! Wow! That’s 25% of his endorement!

  126. QuacknHack Says:

    Less whining please whined psychout.

  127. SGS Says:

    Jonathan (#118) Oh, I won’t worry about the weather too much. After all, we know how hard worker Mitt is, and how wonderful his sons are. YOu can bet that they will be there on ground in Iowa, digging sidewalks from all homes of their supporters to all precients in the whole state! :P

  128. Greg Says:

    I wonder if Tancredo will campaign for Mitt in Iowa, like Steve King agreed to do.

  129. SGS Says:

    I really, really, really did Mitt disrespect. I should have knew better. He won’t be one digging the pathways to all precients. In fact, he will shut down his company, personally fund the flights of all company employees to Iowa, and personally purchased them shovels, THEN will he and his sons join them in digging out the pathways! ;)

  130. Jonathan Says:

    #125, yeah i’ll bet/ BTW to rub it in to you northern yanks, it is a chilly 74 down here in Florida. Gotta love these cold Florida winters

  131. UA Says:

    a chilly 64 here in Ark :)

  132. Abe Says:

    SGS,

    You actually are indirectly pointing something out….

    The Romney Organization shares the characteristics of the Candidate himself and therefore I believe his paid and non-paid campaign workers will be the hardest working come Caucus night….

  133. Illinoisguy Says:

    wow, Tony Perkins is nailing Huckabee on MSNBC right now

  134. alaska jake Says:

    #125. . .it’s -3 here in Anchorage. . . -18 last night. . .and -32 in Fairbanks.

    Anyone have a link to reports that Gilcrist is rethinking his Huck endorsement?

  135. Greg Says:

    Drudge says that the NY Times is planning to run their story about McCain tomorrow. Apparently, McCain and his attorneys don’t have enough ammunition to discredit the story.

  136. Jared Says:

    I guess Gilchrist got pulled into Huckabee’s office and was spanked for re-considering his endorsement. NRO has the story.

    http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YjNhYTgxNGZlMDM3MjdhMDU4ZmM1MTM4Y2I5ZjYyYjA=

  137. SGS Says:

    If we do recall from last summer, Mitt did rent every single charter bus in Iowa for Ames, forcing all other candidates to bring in buses from out of state. Perhaps he has already rented every single snowblower in Iowa? :)

    Abe (#130) But on a more serious note, yeah, Mitt campaign actually are coordinating the army of volunteers to come to Iowa and start working there, something like 3 to 5 days before. I won’t be surprised if many of them does end up digging snow, providing they do get snowed in. This is how dedicated I have seen with the Mitt supporters.

  138. bjalder26 Says:

    I’m not too surprised; Romney is the strongest top-tier candidate on illegal immigration.

  139. Jared Says:

    SGS,

    You make a great point about Romney. He has the money and team to organize a tremendous effort to get out the vote there in IA, and elsewhere. I wouldn’t doubt for a second that he already has a tremendous plan in place taking into consideration every contingency. The key, as far as I have heard, is getting the people to the caucus. Mitt has proven to be the most effective at that as evidenced by the Ames straw poll, and the Values Voters Summit(I think that was the one) where he barely edged Huckabee for the win.

  140. alaska jake Says:

    Mitt’s strong organization skills and early preparations for any situation (good or bad) is directly related to his tremendous business success in the private sector. It’s also why he succeeded turning around the Olympics. And it’s the main reason I’m supporting him. I think having a president who sees the government as a business, huge compared to any other, but still a business, would do wonders for fixing a lot of what’s wrong in DC.

  141. Cory Says:

    I’ve posted this at more than just this blog, but I definitely do not work for Romney’s campaign. I want some conservatives, who I feel haven’t given Mitt a fair shake thus far, to seriously reconsider their positions. Romney is clearly now the anti-illegal immigration candidate. What candidate can win the support of ALL conservatives…fiscal, defense, AND social? Mitt’s the man!

  142. bethtopaz Says:

    #139 - Been with Mitt from the start — Mitt’s the man - on all three “legs of the stool” so to speak: fiscal, defense and social.

    He is a doer.

    My dad was a doer — and turned everything he touched into gold.

    I have seen someone like Mitt in action.

    Romney has discipline oozing out of his pores.

    I want to be disciplined, but so often give into my weaknesses. I admire him immensely for his dedication and commitment to family, to country and to excellence!

  143. Tancredo Drops Out, Endorses Romney « Killbuck Creek Politics Says:

    [...] December 21, 2007 by mortensign Tancredo drops out, endorses Romney [...]

  144. Eric Dondero Says:

    As a solid Rudy guy, I applaud Mitt Romney for picking up this endorsement.

    Tancredo is not just about immigration. He’s excellent on fiscal matters. He scores very high on libertarian indexes from Club for Growth and Republican Liberty Caucus.

    And he’s got a great sense of humor.

    Romney scored big here. And if nothing else, it will help him in Colorado.

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