February 2, 2008

Conservatives Fighting McCain

This Youtube is making it’s way into activists inboxes all across the nation as we speak.

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There is plenty of information in this video a McCain supporter could take issue with. But the mere fact remains, as evidenced by both this Youtube and the endorsements that Mitt recieved yesterday, that there are large amount of activists who really just don’t want McCain on the ticket. Should McCain not enjoy a convincing win on Tuesday, you can look forward to a more emboldened approach to his candidacy from such corners of the party. Should he have a convincing win, McCain will have an uphill battle fighting for conservative support on election day in November. It’s one thing to not have guns trained against you, it’s quite another to expect conservative groups and activists to help you out in your micro-targeting when you have negatively targeted them.

by @ 9:37 am. Filed under Issues, John McCain
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61 Responses to “Conservatives Fighting McCain”

  1. Adam Says:

    Good deal. Let’s keep getting the word out. That way once Romney goes down in flames all of the stuff mentioned on this video clip only helps McCain in the general election.

  2. Illinoisguy Says:

    How in the heck is this guy a front runner in the Republican party? It’s really said, especially when we have a fabulous candidate in Mitt Romney.

  3. Adam Says:

    RomFriendly Rasmussen has a new poll out for TN (which contradicts the Insider Advantage polls and no doubt will contradict other polls that don’t inflate “conservative” numbers due to the screening process).

    McCain – 32
    Mitt (v3.0) – 29
    Huckabee – 23
    Paul – 8

  4. Adam Says:

    Oops. here’s the link:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/tennessee/election_2008_tennessee_gop_presidential_primary

  5. Jason Bonham Says:

    adam,

    Do you think he can without conservstives? If you do, you obviously are thinking different then the McCain campaign. They are looking for conservative support.

  6. Adam Says:

    Jason,

    Conservatives need to come to McCain (and will) just as much as McCain needs to come to conservatives.

  7. Erik Says:

    Adam, you are wrong!

  8. Jeffrey Says:

    Adam – some will, not enough though. Too many would rather let McCain fight this battle on his own since he has made a career out of sticking his thumb in the eye of some of the core conservative issues of our day.

    McCain being an arrogant prick has nothing to do with his time as a POW

  9. Jason Bonham Says:

    Adam,

    I don’t know what conservatives need to do. I think a lot of it will be decided by three things:

    1. A convincing win on TUesday for McCain (may or may not happen)
    2. CPAC (I’ll be there)
    3. A campaign that stays attractive to conservatives (This is where I think McCain will come up short)

  10. Jason Bonham Says:

    10.

    #3, should say, if he can get through the hurdles of #’s 1 and 2.

  11. Adam Says:

    Erik,

    Wait and see. Everytime Hillary speaks, she screetches. The conservatives will come around in the end, just like some of them are now coalescing to Romney now that it’s too late for him to win the primary.

    Jeffrey,

    “Adam – some will, not enough though”

    We’ll see. There are plenty of people in the center that would vote GOP if not for the fundamentalist and lockstep requirements. Especially against Hillary.

  12. Jeffrey Says:

    McCain is an incredibly uninspiring individual. His story is an amazing life lesson, but what about the future? He represents everything that is wrong with Washington – EVERYTHING! He doesn’t stand up for some of the core conservative platform positions of our day and in fact has gone way out of his way to write legislation and slam that legislation through. Now I know that we, the little electorate, don’t know as much as the great and mighty McCain and we just need to trust him some more that he’s doing the right thing. No thanks. I’ve seen enough of this sell out and will not actively support his candidacy. I voted for Bush in 2000, but withheld my vote for him in 2004. No biggie – its part of democracy in action.

  13. Adam Says:

    “He doesn’t stand up for some of the core conservative platform positions of our day”

    He doesn’t NEED to. He just needs to continue being slightly right of center once he gets the nomination.

  14. Aron Goldman Says:

    Most GOP Govs Shun Romney

    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=DA6535CA-3048-5C12-00435EC54EB5479F

  15. Jeffrey Says:

    I think McCain learned a lot through the Keating Five experience, but to change constitutional law such as he did with McCain Feingold as some sort of personal redemption is despicable.

    AZ should have got rid of this guy a long time ago.

  16. Jeffrey Says:

    Adam – exactly. Thanks for making my point for me. “He doesn’t NEED to”

  17. Adam Says:

    Jeffrey,

    “but to change constitutional law such as he did with McCain Feingold as some sort of personal redemption is despicable.”

    What percent of the electorate gives even 1/100 of a damn about McCain-Feingold? Does Joe Six-Pack care about McCain Feingold. Does Susan Soccer Mom care? or Sandy Security Mom?

    It doesn’t make a nickel’s worth of difference.

  18. Aron Goldman Says:

    Romney could have young voter hurdle

    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=D6FDBA1E-3048-5C12-0097476EA0A02DBF

  19. Aron Goldman Says:

    Huckabee: A Vote for Romney is a Vote for Hillary

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/02/01/politics/fromtheroad/entry3781084.shtml

  20. Jason Bonham Says:

    aron,

    What would be interesting is why so many of McCain’s colleagues in the Senate haven’t supported him.

  21. Aron Goldman Says:

    Turning the pages of Romney’s biography

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/02/turning_the_pages_of_romneys_biography?mode=PF

  22. Aron Goldman Says:

    Huckabee factor could sap Romney in South

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/02/huckabee_factor_could_sap_romney_in_south?mode=PF

  23. Big S Says:

    What percent of the electorate gives even 1/100 of a damn about McCain-Feingold? Does Joe Six-Pack care about McCain Feingold. Does Susan Soccer Mom care? or Sandy Security Mom?

    It doesn’t make a nickel’s worth of difference.

    I’m pretty sure most of the electorate considers the law, on balance, neutral. That is, the goal of getting moneyed interests out of politics is still widely perceived as a noble one, no matter how flawed the actual execution of it may be. I think people will forgive McCain for that one.

  24. McCain: Say Anything, Lie Anything, Why He is the Last Person You Would Want In the White House « Killbuck Creek Politics Says:

    [...] from MyManMitt from Race42008, says: There is plenty of information in this video a McCain supporter could take issue with. But [...]

  25. Aron Goldman Says:

    Chewing Over Romney’s Words From Earlier Today…
    http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzVlNDkzYzJjZTg5MDFiZGY5Yzk0ODlkNjgwZmEzYTU=

  26. Chris Says:

    Aron, stop spamming. This thread is about the new McCain video, not a blank check for you to spam us about Huckabee. Huckabee won one state out of like nine now, and even that win was by only a few percent.

  27. Aron Goldman Says:

    Personality driving force in McCain’s resurgence

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/02/personality_driving_force_in_mccains_resurgence?mode=PF

  28. Aron Goldman Says:

    A Potential Supremely Ugly Fact In the GOP Results

    http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDdjNzJmZjRmZTQ1MDIzYzFkMDJjNTcyNWM1ZTM2Y2Y=

  29. Chris Says:

    Aron, it is very telling about you and your man Huckabee when all the Mitt attacks you post are from the boston globe. Word to the wise: Boston Globe is ultra-liberal and its avowed mission is to destroy conservatism. To align yourselves with the Globe is a dangerous proposition.

  30. Jason Bonham Says:

    Aron,

    Why are you spamming like this? Don’t you have your daily reads post to post all your negative Romney stories?

  31. Chris Says:

    I love the contrast. The post’s title is “Conservatives Fighting McCain”. The comments above should be titled “Liberals fighting Romney”.

  32. Aron Goldman Says:

    My man Huckabee??? :) You mean the creationist-believing knuckle-dragger who wants ‘intelligent design’ taught in public school science classes, and wants to see the Constitution amended to match “God’s standards”? I suspect you don’t know which member of R4′08 was responsible for the evolution question in the first GOP debate last year.

  33. Dave Says:

    A lot of conservatives feel that if McCain were to win the nomination fairly, in an above-board manner, they would hold their nose and come out and support him as the nominee of the conservative party in America. Since that is NOT the way McCain has gotten to where he’s gotten, many of us feel that we owe him nothing, and that he wouldn’t be the REAL nominee of the party were he to win the nomination. My problems with McCain are, broadly defined, two:

    1) Ideological. He’s not a conservative and has beliefs that will damage America.
    2) Ethical. Betrayal, lies, distortions, back-room deals, pretense, condescension, arrogance.

    My problem is far more number 2 than number 1, which is why I won’t vote for the jerk.

  34. Aron Goldman Says:

    Romney Maps a Strategy for Survival

    After devoting two years and more than $35 million of his money trying to win his party’s nomination for the presidency, Mitt Romney and his advisers face the possibility that his effort could end with the nominating contests on Tuesday.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/us/politics/02romney.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

  35. Argamenon Says:

    McCain is an old fool and his days are numbered. He won’t get too far with only a third of republicans supporting him and the rest vehemently against.

    Talk radio is all against him and that won’t change. They’ve gone too far and burned all the bridges. McCain’s allies are all in the left. And they will abandon him as sure as they will support Obama. And Obama is very happy:

    “Obama advisers have said privately for months that McCain would be their preferred opponent among all those who sought the GOP nomination. They said a race between Obama, 46, and McCain, 71, would provide the starkest contrast between old vs. new, the future versus the past. It’s an argument that Obama also has been using against Clinton, but his campaign feels it would be even stronger against McCain.”

  36. bjalder26 Says:

    Since Hillary and McCain are such close friends, maybe they can choose each other as their running mates, and give America almost no reason to go to the polls.

  37. Adam Says:

    Oh Arg,

    And Carter thought that Reagan would be an easier opponent too.

  38. Adam Says:

    “Since Hillary and McCain are such close friends, maybe they can choose each other as their running mates”

    Well that would no doubt make Mitt happy since we certainly wouldn’t be returning to Reagan-Bush in your scenario.

  39. Axel G. (independent) Says:

    Adam,

    I agree that its foolish to ever underestimate any candidate, but Carter’s loss to Reagan had much more to do with Carter (the economy sucked and the Iran rescue failed) than Reagan. If anything, Obama would be playing the role of Reagan in November and his favorable mention of Reagan was certainly no accident.

  40. Adam Says:

    I actually agree that Obama might be a tougher opponent than Hillary. But Obama is so inexperienced. McCain would school him on foreign affairs. If one thing blows up anywhere in the world over the next nine months then Obama is finished.

    Obama is not ready for prime time. Remember when he decided to play “Neocon for a Day” and wanted to take a tough line and unilaterally go into Pakistan. This guy is too much in danger of going off the reservation. At least with Romney, Obama can plausibly claim that his opponent is no better on defense.

  41. Shawnie Says:

    It doesn’t even begin to address what bothers me the most about his propensity to war, his feeble economic and tax policies. This guy is horrifying….

  42. Shawnie Says:

    And one more thing, McCain’s feeble immigration policies.

    This picture says it all.

    http://faultlineusa.blogspot.com/2008/02/conservatives-plan-short-trip-for.html

  43. Adam Says:

    You guys need to give it a rest with immigration. You’re not convincing anyone to switch to Romney over it.

  44. Axel G. (independent) Says:

    Adam,

    There is no doubt that McCain has more foreign policy experience and he did get the surge right, but I wonder if he is forward-thinking or whether he is still fighting the Vietnam War. I would prefer someone not so heavily tied and influenced not just by the past but also by cold war thinking.

    Regarding Obama’s Pakistan comments, he was right. The two 9-11 chairmen wrote an op-ed echoing his commnents and even Bhutto before her assasination appeared on Fox and said Obama was right even though she disagreed that Pakistan’s sovereignty should be violated.

  45. Adam Says:

    Axel,

    I’m not saying he wasn’t right about Pakistan. I’m saying he shot off at the mouth and was off-message to what the Liberal electorate wants. If he keeps doing that then he’s not going to win.

  46. Nusrat Says:

    Romney supporters who want to ban/limit pornographic materials have no room to speak on the issue of free speech.

  47. Axel G. (independent) Says:

    Ah ok Adam. I agree with you.

  48. Shawnie Says:

    43 – Perhaps not you Adam, but it is a hot topic for a lot of us.

  49. Adam Says:

    Shawnie,

    Forget about you and forget about me for a second. We’re all focused on Tuesday, yes? The point is that immigration doesn’t matter. Mitt railed about it in IA and lost to Huckabee. He railed about it in NH and lost to McCain. He shut up about it in FL but the damage was done when he lost Hispanics 51-15. On second thought, maybe Romney and his supporters should KEEP talking about it, because the carping certainly doesn’t lead to electoral victory.

  50. Shawnie Says:

    #46 Nusrat – That sure seems non sequitur!

  51. Big S Says:

    You guys need to give it a rest with immigration. You’re not convincing anyone to switch to Romney over it.

    Immigration is the main reason why much of the conservative pundit corps has lined up against McCain. They won’t be happy unless a candidate promises to remove all illegal aliens from the country ASAP. Romney has promised to scare ‘em away, so Michelle Malkin and her ilk have pledged their support to him.

  52. Adam Says:

    Big S,

    You’re right. But the people that want to round up millions and toss them back to Mexico are already in Romney’s corner now. It didn’t help him one bit in IA, NH and FL – and it really hurt him in FL. Something tells me that in CA when the state is 1/3 Hispanic, his rhetoric isn’t going to go over too well.

  53. Shawnie Says:

    Adam – we’re talking about conservatives resisting McCain and keeping him out of the White House. Immigration has a few stars by it as one of the inflammatory issues. Immigration wasn’t enough to help Romney or appeal to the Lib/Moderate masses, but the group that is going to stop McCain from living in the White House is the same group that cares about immigration. I’m not strategizing for Romney right now, I’m in full survival mode now. McCream McCorn.

  54. Adam Says:

    Ok Shawnie. Good luck with that.

  55. Big S Says:

    Adam,

    I think after the immigration brouhaha of last spring, a lot of conservatives latched onto it as their issue for the 2008 election, thinking that it would motivate voters to pull the lever for Republicans. However, I think when they looked at the polls and saw 70% against “amnesty”, they miscalculated, not realizing that the definition of that word varies depending on who you ask. They took the hardest line possible on immigration short of packing illegals on trains and driving them over the border, and it has turned off a lot of Republicans. Immigration is still a hot issue, but the Romney stance is no longer strongly favored, if it ever was in the first place.

  56. Adam Says:

    Big S,

    You’re right on. I actually agree with the Giuliani stance – secure the border first and then work out some path to citizenship that is humane and requires a fine. Legalize the millions here if they work for it – as long as we stem the flow of illegals coming into the country. But that’s not good enough for the hard right. They don’t ever want to allow the millions here to become citizens. That’s what fosters resentment and THAT is what is going to kill the GOP if we don’t start sounding reasonable about it. McCain can undo some of the damage.

  57. Irish Right Says:

    I’m shocked, SHOCKED that Aron can find negative Romney articles in the Boston Globe & NYT to post. Why, oh why, didn’t those papers print those throughout the campaign so that we wouldn’t have been troubled by Romney’s Candidacy?

    Oh wait, they did.

  58. Adam Says:

    Irish,

    It’s not just BoGlobe and NYT. WSJ had a good one yesterday too.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120182471883733637.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

  59. Big S Says:

    I actually agree with the Giuliani stance – secure the border first and then work out some path to citizenship that is humane and requires a fine.

    As an ex-Rudyite, I agree completely. I think McCain’s current position is actually pretty close to the one Giuliani advanced, and I wouldn’t be surprised to hear him adopt some of his new biggest fan’s rhetoric on the issue. Yes, we need to have better control and more information on who enters the country, but the illegal aliens Romney wants to chase away are already here, and are probably some of the more enterprising individuals from their respective countries, having risked what they have to come here and work crappy jobs in hopes of a better life. In other words, most of them are the kind of people we want to come here anyway, and forcing them out to retroactively enforce a law that had been ignored for a generation probably rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

  60. bethtopaz Says:

    I’m still amazed at how the Mainstream Media has succeeded so far in choosing the GOP frontrunner.

    I guess the GOP base doesn’t matter.

  61. Shawnie Says:

    Bethtopaz: America is dumbing down and believes whatever the liberal MSM tells them to.

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