GOP Nominee
Former Candidates
ARG California 2/3/08
- Romney 33%
- McCain 32%
- Huckabee 16%
- Paul 8%
- Undecided 9%
Sample Size: 600 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of likely Republican primary voters living in California (600 Republicans).Sample Dates: February 1-2, 2008
Margin of Error: ± 4 percentage points, 95% of the time, on questions where opinion is evenly split.
Disclaimer: It’s ARG, I know. But 3 polls today with Romney tied or leading in California. And now news Romney is headed back to California tomorrow. Tuesday could be a great day for Romney.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 pm
STOP YOU MORONS. ask gary hart what california means to someone who doesnt lead in delegates. mccain will have at worst a 250 delegate lead after tuesday, not to mention leads on BOTH hillary and obama. stop with the nonsense. LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR, the moderates in the party will NEVER support mitt. infact i will do my part to see barrack wins to ensure a landslide of epic proportion against mitt should he steal the nomination that is very clearly mccain’s. the far right and talk radio will be sorry if they continue to ignore the slient moderat majority of the republican party.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Right now Governor Romney has the momentum. He has movement conservative wind beneath his wings and he is about to soar like an eagle on 2/5.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Matt,
If Mitt has no chance then why do you sound so worried?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
LOVE IT!!
#1 - go post on a pro - mcCain post
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
ARG typically polls McCain higher than others. If he’s slipping even in this one, it’s definitely a decline for JMac.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm
most respected california poll, the field poll, has mccain up 8. game, set, match.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Go Romney! Mitt really could do quite well in the west! McCain probably could have made better use of his time than spending it in Massachusetts just because he hates Mitt.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Jason,
There has also been 3 polls out today that show McCain with at least a 7 point lead! Dont forget to mention those as well.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Chill Matt . . .
But I’m still waiting on Datamar CA poll before feeling confident! They were dead on in FL!
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 pm
a vote for romney ensures that we moderates will abbondon the republican party. what? you thought that we would be any less vicious then the far right has been. we will make mitt sorry in november should you continue to attempt to steal mccain’s rightful nomination. 3 defermant mitt the coward will never be president.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 pm
JABruce,
Romney has momentum??? That’s news to me, but you keep drinkin that Kool Aid my friend.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:57 pm
I predict after Tuesday
McCain with 676
Romney with 455
Huckabee with 212
Paul with 33
Anyone care to join in…someone with moderator clout start a prediction thread…..come on…Im too wired to sleep.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:57 pm
bryan,
I think every poll has made it to the site today.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Matt,
You are right on 100% man, but Rumur is Romney’s team has an appearance set up for Wed. after Super Tues. and the word is that he will withdraw from the race….let’s just hope that happens.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 pm
draft dodger mitt has no momentum, and has lost every major primary. no republican has ever won without winning SC. mitt finished 4th in SC. it is over. stop listening to limbaugh, you do realize he is high on oxycotten and painkillers when he’s on the air right?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 pm
California will be Mitt’s firewall.
Soar like an Eagle. Mitt 08!
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 pm
MAtt,
I think the field poll would be considered out dated by now.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Matt, was Michigan an uncontested and minor primary?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 pm
bryan,
Umm, you just sound dumb right now trying to start a whisper campaign. Especially when right now Mitt is enlarging his team in VA as we speak.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:00 am
And lets not forget about Missouri, which is trending to McCain heavily now with all those polls that came out today from Missouri, so that’s another winner take all state for mccain that already inlcludes….
NY, Missouri, NJ, Conn., Delaware, and i’m sure i’m forgetting somemore, with McCain also leading in many other states such as Tenn, GA, Cali, OK, Alabama. I think McCain does really well on Tuesday.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:00 am
the republican party has zero chance to win in the fall if it choses a flip flopper over a war hero, during a time of WAR no less. mitt will be the end of the republican party, and if he is nominated, i say bring on the end.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:01 am
no michigan was the state george romney won 3 times and mitt outspent mccain 2 to 1 in.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:01 am
matt, you are hyperbole’s best friend.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:01 am
Matt,
yeah, that Field poll which took 8 days (Jan. 25 and Feb. 1) to get 481 respondents has got to be the gold standard of what is happening on the ground for Feb 5th, eh?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Jason,
Heard it from one of Jonathan Martin’s blog’s that he has something set up for Wednesday, presumably to annouce that he is withdrawing. I dont see why he should go on after Tuesday, i mean he’s really not going to have enough delegates to have a chance b/c McCain will take so many WTA states on Tuesday.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:02 am
the patriots, the team so hell bent on being the perfect team, buying alot of free agents, trying to run the flawless strategy, lost. lost to the scrappy , gutsy, tough guys. metaphor bowl mittens!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Rush, Hannity and Hugh are now explicitly rather than just implicitly supporting Mitt. They have Mitt’s back and won’t let him lose.
Soar like an Eagle. Mitt 08!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:03 am
matt
Is MI not a major primary anymore?
I believe McCain will win the nomination but will lost the General against Hillary.
Without a clear and distinct choice, America will vote for the Democrat. Republicans will have to wait until 2012. (McCain and Huck will be out by then)
February 4th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Matt, just for clarity, you did state earlier that Mitt had ;ost every major primary…
February 4th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Matt,
Dont worry, Romney will be no danger for McCain, he’s leading in far to many important states right now and he’s whining about Huckabee staying in the race and ridiculing McCain at every turn, Mitt’s just a sore loser.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:04 am
mitt didnt care about californians on saturday, because he was busy at a funeral for who he believed was a magical prophet from god. wow. whats next mitt? birthday party for the easter bunny?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Stephen,
Florida
New Hampshire
South Carolina
Those are important primary states that all candidates competeted hard for, and those are the most imprtant states in the primaries…..And Mitt won none of them!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:06 am
Well Matt number 31 pretty just throws everything you have said out the window.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:06 am
the clear choice is the lying and disgraceful actions of the clintons vs the honor, trust, and heroism of the war hero mccain. mccain wins in november easy againts hillary.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:06 am
“LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR, the moderates in the party will NEVER support mitt.”
So moderates wont support Mitt, Conservatives won’t support McCain either way the GOP loses in November.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:06 am
Now why would Mitt schedule a press briefing to announce he is withdrawing, before Tuesday is done? It took
him 24 hours to decide to run ads in California, don’t you think he’ll take some time to look at the data before
throwing in the towel? And why would he make a return California trip if he didnt have some sense
that he might be in this thing? Maybe the press event is to announce the endorsement of Eli Manning!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:06 am
Matt,
LoL, that was a good, yea i’m sure that got alot of Social Conservatives fired up about voting for Mitt on Tues…Lol!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:06 am
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1709507,00.html
they all hate mitt, he will unite exactly nothing and will lose the biggest landslide in american history if he is allowed to buy mccain’s rightful nomination.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:07 am
Matt 31, now the truth comes out…A Mormon basher…what did they do to you..kick you out?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:08 am
My guess is that the delegate count post-Tuesday will look something like this:
Mac: 750
Mitt: 350
Huck: 250
I’m hoping that things break Mac’s way a little more so that things will look more like this:
Mac: 850
Mitt: 250
Huck: 250
That would be game. Otherwise, Huck probably throws in the towel and Romney probably stays in at least through 2/12 to see how DC/VA/MD play out.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:08 am
No Sean,
Some Conservatives do support McCain and they all will come November b/c no one wants HIllary, Moderates will go heavy to McCain, and McCain will get most of the Indy’s and conservative Dem’s. And McCain will then win by a landslide against Hillary in Nov.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:08 am
“Heard it from one of Jonathan Martin’s blog’s that he has something set up for Wednesday,”
Or another big fundraiser in Boston?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:08 am
sean , conservatives will vote AGAINST hillary, or they will be outcasts in the party. hannity, hugh, they have already said they will work hard to get mccain elected over hillary. but if the shoe is on the other foot, we moderates will gladly sit back and watch the dems destroy mitt knowing we have petraeus in 4 years
February 4th, 2008 at 12:09 am
stephen, if he thinks these guys are ‘prophets of god’ how do we know he won’t take orders from the next prophet?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Romney up 84-4 in Utah!
If Romney can get California and the rest of the west he’ll be in good shape. Following Super Tuesday are several pro-Romney states. Why do you want McCain to be nominated…he has similar views on many issues with the Democrats. The Democrats would make him look like a fool. Romney will change Washington.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Matt would this be your “honor trust and heroism” guy…the same guy who slept his way through the
Navy with junior female officers?
Check out this honorable fellow…http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm
February 4th, 2008 at 12:10 am
If Romney stays in after super Tuesday then he loses all credibility he now has. He will just be a sore loser trying to continue on, he needs to go away b/c right now he’s doing nothing but hurting the Rep.Party by staying in and being a sore loser that he is.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:11 am
bryan,
Can’t find anything that says Romney has an event planned on Wednesday to drop out.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:11 am
#10 Matt - “steal mccain’s rightful nomination”
ROTFLOL - I’m sorry Matt…I was almost going to vote for Mitt tomorrow and then you reminded me that this is McCain’s rightful nomination. I guess I’m casting my vote for McCain tomorrow. I forgot that POW’s and veterans are just supposed to be handed the election. What was I thinking?
You’re as class-less as the candidate you support.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Petraeus? I doubt seriously he’d run for President. If Mitt doesn’t run again in 2012 i’d probably get behind Governor Sanford if he jumped in. McCain should be toast with all the lefty bills he’s put his name on over the years.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Yea Romney will Change Washington alright!!!
Just like he has changed his position on every major issue that he stands for!!!
McCain was right when he said that Romney is the Candidate of Change!! Lol
February 4th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Matt are you still drunk after your pats lost tonight?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:13 am
Dave, I agree that would be game, and even Mitt would see that. can’t see it quite that heavy though. Thanks
for weighing in….
Matt…do Catholics take orders from the Pope? Does the baptist convert McCain take orders straight from the
SBC? Does Harry Reid take orders from Salt Lake..again, these arguments expose your true issues, and
they are personal “my friend”. You have an issue with Mormonisn. It’s very apparent.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:13 am
bush will lean on mitt after tuesday and tell him to take a hike.
and yes, stephen, far more honor then 3 deferment mitt. farrr more. what mccain has been through, he has earned this nomination. mitt has never earned anything in his life. just was handed millions from daddy. mitt is a coward who tried to compare his sons campaigning to service. mccain doesn’t need to, his sons actually serve, unlike the gutless romenys.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:14 am
bryan,
you are delusional if you believe that Mccain will beat hillary in a “landslide”. If he beats her, it will be so close it could possibly be reminiscent of 2000.
Hillary will beat McCain in the General. In a time when “change” is the feeling, a Democrat will win if there isn’t a clear and distinct difference with the Republican. McCain presents no big difference to the Democrat (Hillary), therefore change will prevail and Hillary wins!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:15 am
McCain supporters are just as anti-capitalism as their candidate.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:15 am
#44 - matt “stephen, if he thinks these guys are ‘prophets of god’ how do we know he won’t take orders from the next prophet?”
Oh no! You figured it out. The secret’s out. That’s just it matt…but you’ve got to keep it between us. Mitt will be taking orders from the next prophet. It’s documented that all Mormon prophets have used the 100’s of Mormon elected government officials throughout the world as puppets for their own purposes. You’re on to the cult…just read more at mormoncult.org
February 4th, 2008 at 12:15 am
#54
matt you are just like your candidate. You complain about the distortion of truth and then engage in it yourself. That is real honor and character.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Matt,
I get it! POWs are entitled to the presidency. IT all makes sense now. I guess a hard-working successful business man who has a great family is trash. Thanks.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:17 am
bryan was a Kool aid drinking Switchback “err” Brownback fan who swore to us all here that Brownback was going to win Ames and going on to win Iowa.
That didnt work out so he saddled up with a liberal like McCain to continue firing blanks at Romney. In the end, it wont work. You just dont have credibility and NEVER provide facts, polls, are coherant arguements to make your case.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:17 am
the pope is not considered a prophet, merely the mortal head of the catholic church. the ‘prophet’ claims to be selected by god and visions from angels and such. the pople is elected by the college of cardinals, very democratic and completely mortal. mormons believe the prophet’s words are divine, and if that is the case how could mitt ignore a command from his prophet, unless of coarse, he’s not real.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Let’s not forget that McCain married into money……Doh!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:18 am
Matt, I agree that Mitt erred in trying to compare his sons actions to military service, and I’ll just remind
you that he did likewise and apologized for drawing a truly poor comparison. Back to my reference…did you
read the article and what do you think about your war hero’s acts of sleeping with junior officers? Was
that honorable? Heroic? Trustworthy in some way to openly and consistently violate the first law of
military authority…that to compromise one’s authority over subordinates? Dude was a herioc POW, but that’s clearly where the
heroism ended. Sorry.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:18 am
#54 “and yes, stephen, far more honor then 3 deferment mitt. farrr more. what mccain has been through, he has earned this nomination. mitt has never earned anything in his life. just was handed millions from daddy. mitt is a coward who tried to compare his sons campaigning to service. mccain doesn’t need to, his sons actually serve, unlike the gutless romenys.”
Mitt’s dad actually taught him to work for a living. Everything Mitt has is because of his own hard work, independence, and will-power. I am sorry you are suffering from jealousy and envy. Like so many anti-Mitt people, you just wish your life had turned out as well as his, and can’t stand the fact that there are actually incredibly good people in America that work hard and achieve success.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:19 am
Look at the state by state total races and Romney has a chance to do much better than you guys are predicting. He has the lead in GA and is close enough in TN and MO that he could surprise and win there. Even if he loses those two he likely will win ND, AK, MT, UT, MA, WV and CO. Huckabee probably only wins in AR with McCain winning AL, AZ, NY, MN, NJ, IL CN, DE, and OK.
Romney will still be in the race if he can break even in CA win MO and 1/2 of TN and GA. He is trending up and Huckabee is trending down in all three. Hopefully talk radio will spend all day tomorrow talking about how a vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain, especially Rush, and Hannity, not to mention local talk radio.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:19 am
No way Romney drops out on Wednesday. If he can do better than expected on 2/5, which won’t be hard to do since the MSM and conventional wisdom has already written him off, then its a state-by-state battle after that, with Kansas and Washington on tap for 2/9.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:19 am
Matt apparently you were asleep for Mitt’s Faith in America speech.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:19 am
tier, how exactly does making yourself a rich man by breaking up companies make you qualified to be a war time president???? besides, mitt thinks native americans are from israel, which means he’s too stupid to command the military.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:19 am
Question for the McCain supporters…..
Besides the troop surge, which of his positions do you favor?
He voted against the tax cuts twice, complains about cutting taxes on the rich. A liberal view.
I seriously doubt this man’s ability to do anything positive for the economy.
I’m just afraid that he will do all he can to “reach out” to Democrats as President, making them look good by helping them advance their agenda and ensuring more years of a Democrat congress. He really does seem interested in working with Democrats a little bit too much for my liking.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Fear of Prophets…there must be a word for that…Prophophobia? Hinkleyphobia?….Authoriphobia?
How about Mosesphobia? I like that one!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:21 am
dskinner,
When you say Romney will stay in after tuesday, it really makes McCainbots mad. Just fall in line ok.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:21 am
I already posted this on another thread, but given are predicting, it is worth another look.
ALABAMA - Huckabee and McCain split delegates with an edge to McCain.
McCain - 30 Huckabee - 18 Romney - 0
ALASKA - Romney probably gets most if not all of these since it is a convention and he has an endorsement plus his son has been there organizing support.
Romney - 29, McCain/Huckabee - 0
ARIZONA - Even though Romney will probably have a stronger than expected showing and probably win some districts, it is WTA for the whole state.
McCain - 53 Romney/Huckabee - 0
ARKANSAS - Huckabee will win everything in the WTA by district.
Huckabee - 34 Romney/McCain - 0
CALIFORNIA - Definitely the toughest to predict because so many districts are so different, but if the momentum keeps going in Romney’s favor he probably wins the popular vote and enough districts to take the overall total narrowly.
Romney - 90 McCain - 83
COLORADO - Romney is way up, but because it is a caucus McCain and Huckabee will win some delegates.
Romney - 30 McCain - 12 Huckabee - 4
CONNETICUT - McCain wins all the delegates in WTA.
McCain - 30 Romney - 0
DELEWARE - This state definately leans McCain, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see Romney win here. Let’s give it to McCain since it is only 18 delegates.
McCain - 18 Romney - 0
GEORGIA - Romney has been trending up and he definitely has the chance to steal enough Huckabee supporters to win here. WTA by district means that Romney could get a big haul here. Since this is optimistic for Romney let’s say he wins here.
Romney – 54 McCain – 12 Huckabee - 6
ILLINIOS – McCain probably takes all of the delegates here even though it is WTA by district.
McCain – 70 Romney – 0
MASSACHUSETTS – This is the only real proportional state so McCain will certainly win some delegates, but despite McCain’s late push there he probably loses by a bit.
Romney – 32 McCain – 11
MINNESOTA – So far Romney has surprised in caucuses and he certainly could here. However, with Pawlenty and Coleman both endorsing McCain he probably wins solidly. (It didn’t help him in Maine and Romney has been here while McCain hasn’t so who knows.)
McCain – 25 Romney – 13 Huckabee – 3
MISSOURI – This like, GA, CA, and TN is a real prize. Being optimistic for Romney, he wins this WTA state. Romney does have the endorsement of the Governor and former Senator.
Romney – 58 McCain – 0
MONTANA – WTA statewide. Romney probably wins this.
Romney - 25 McCain – 0
NEW JERSEY – Even with Romney’s recent surge, McCain still wins handily.
McCain – 52 Romney – 0
NEW YORK – Again, McCain wins fairly handily.
McCain – 101 Romney – 0
NORTH DAKOTA – In a closed caucus my guess is Romney wins this WTA state.
Romney – 26 McCain – 0
OKLAHOMA – Romney will probably come in third here and it is pretty unlikely that he will win any delegates. The only question is whether most of them go to McCain or Huckabee. Probably McCain.
McCain – 29 Huckabee – 12
TENNESSEE – Being optimistic for Romney he can win this WTA by district state.
Romney – 43 McCain – 12
UTAH – Obviously Romney wins all these delegates.
Romney – 36 McCain – 0
WEST VIRGINIA – This is a WTA convention that Romney will be personally addressing. I think an activist event like this where Romney is personally present probably gives him an edge.
Romney – 18 McCain/Huckabee – 0
If this reasonable but obviously optimistic scenario came true these would be the totals, including Maine and Louisiana even though those delegates are technically not yet awarded.
McCain wins 9 states for a 2/5 delegate total of 534
Romney wins 11 states for a 2/5 delegate total of 454
Huckabee wins 1 state for a 2/5 delegate total of 77
Total delegates
McCain – 97* + 534 = 631
Romney – 92* + 454 = 546
Huckabee – 29* + 77 = 106
*From CNN.com. Add the ~40 McCain won in LA if you want because apparently they haven’t done so yet at CNN. My understanding is that even though those pro-life delegates support McCain they will remain unpledged at the Convention. If it did become brokered they certainly would be very important. Since they didn’t vote for McCain at the caucus I don’t think there is any guarantee they will support him at the convention, but who knows.
RCP has slightly different numbers, trust the one that you like.
Delegates left to be awarded – 988
Delegates needed to win – 1191
McCain would need 560 of the 988 or 57%
Romney would need 645 of the 988 or 65%
Huckabee and Paul would thankfully be eliminated and probably forced to drop out.
Most of the remaining states are WTA by district or statewide so either candidate could win by taking a majority of the remaining states.
The next big day would be March 4 when Vemont, Rhode Island, Texas and Ohio vote and 265 delegates are up for grabs. The next debate would be at the end of February on CNN in Ohio.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:23 am
sean, no i wasn’t, but after the speech i didn’t have enough bread crumbs to get home.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:23 am
MATT,
First off you should know, that my main focus is the economy. McCain has no background in that capacity. Less and less people are dying each day in Iraq. The situation is continuing to be more in control. Granted, its not completely done, but the economy has become more of a focus. If the economy goes, it will be harder to fund the war. IMO
February 4th, 2008 at 12:23 am
Matt, its not about breaking up companies that qualifies him for us. Its about the intellect, the tenacity,
the energy, the decision making, the strategic planning, the change management, the partnership that it takes
to build AND tear down companies that makes Mitt stand out. Its about COMPETENCY man!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:23 am
Sheesh, anyone care to predict Super Tuesday? If Romney can win California and Georgia, that’s huge. Missouri polls haven’t been great to Mitt, but Tennessee of all places looks pretty good for the governor. I just don’t know on this one- I feel hopeful, but not too terribly optimistic…I’ve learned from previous primaries that unfortunately the media does have a huge effect on Republican primary voters. How do you fight the ENTIRE “mainstream” media establishment?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:24 am
#68 matt - “besides, mitt thinks native americans are from israel, which means he’s too stupid to command the military.”
Care to share with us what religous beliefs you hold matt…you bigoted little jerk? Surely, nobody would dare call what you believe stupid or think you’re stupid for believing in it. You’re perfect, right? Grow up man. Time to move out of you parent’s basement, get an education, and do somethihng with your life.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:25 am
#68
matt
You are now approaching the distinction of a blow hard. What else did he do with the companies? He restructured them, made them more efficient, grew them into better companies that resulted in many more jobs that were lost by the 10s of thousands. That’s what makes a good president for a nation that has a bloated government and the economy heading for a recession. How does McCain stack up against that?
BTW: Your Mormon doctrine reference is a half truth…but I guess that’s politics, ugh? Just like the old man.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Dskinner,
Great job on your predictions. However, I disagree Mitt will win all three states: Tennessee, Missouri, Georgia. I think more like 2 of 3.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:25 am
tenn, Ga, and missouri are way off in that projection. mccain is actually leading in GA now with mitt in third. mccain is leading in missouri as well and has alot of rudy organization there going his way. tenn is also trending mccain, and i wont be shocked to see a last minute fred endorsement.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:26 am
dskinner, I like those numbers and I’ll take em. Bring on the brokered convention, where the base will cleave to
Mitt! I can just see McCain having to take his argument to the floor of the Convention center, and wailing about
“this was my nomination, G_D amn it”!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:26 am
Matt is a tool.
Like Bryan, you spew comments with no basis of fact. I say things like “McCain is liberal” and can provide no less than 10 examples of it.
Voted against Bush tax cuts
Voted against Bush tax cuts again
Voted against ending the death tax
Authored Patients bill of rights with John Edwards
Authored Mccain/Feingold
Authored Mccain/Kennedy/amnesty
Authored Mccain/Lieberman global warming crap
Voted against drilling in ANWAR
wants to close Gitmo and bring combatants to the US
gang of 14
Matt, you spew baseless, factless, nonsense intermingled with anti mormon bigotry and expect to be taken seriously. Are you really as stupid as you sound? Isnt it past your bedtime?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Matt…are you actually reading the article about McCain’s “heroic” sexual escapades with
his lady officers in the Navy!?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:29 am
private sector success means little when his record as governor is so horrid. 3rd worst job creation, tax increases, mandated healthcare that includes subsidized abortion. combined with the fact that he is a total novice on foreign policy and you have quite the horrible candidate. last time we nominated an MBA with no foreign policy experience with a quetionable record as governor, 2 planes hit the twin towers. open your eyes man, only mccain can win the war on terror, cut the defecit, cut the wasteful spending, and reduce the size of government.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:31 am
Matt, all kidding aside, do you think it changes anyone’s mind to know that McCain was a philandering
slouch through much of his heroic Naval career? I find it fascinating that noone has brought this up anywhere, and
perhaps because it cant be proven? But it really makes it impossible to trust the man with the keys to the Oval Office, at least
for me and my family.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:31 am
Matt,
Do they let you watch TV much where you are, and have you had a chance to talk to Brittney Spears yet?
I thought they gave you the bread crumbs you mentioned to feed the ducks? We will see what happens Tuesday, but please dont hurt yourself or others, whatever the outcome.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:32 am
So now it was Bush’s MBA that brought down the towers. Good man, that’s rich!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:33 am
Husky…sweet man!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:33 am
I think if Romney wins over 350 delegates on Super Tuesday he will stay in. It would mean he is within ~250 of McCain and that Huckabee will probably have to drop out.
I think Romney would give it at least another month to see what would happen on 3/4 when OH and TX vote. It would give him time to earn money, rally conservatives and another debate to go after McCain, which hopefully he would actually do.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:33 am
#15 matt, when you call Mitt a draft dodger, it makes you look kinda dumb.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:37 am
dskinner..I like the analysis there and agree. If he hangs around, it puts Texas and Ohio in play, and makes
for a very fun spring political time…I may even miss spring training this year!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:38 am
“subsidized abortion”
You do know that it was a court order that said abortion had to be covered under the health insurance plan that Romney came up with?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Voted against Bush tax cuts - to make a point that the president needed to cut spending too, bush didn’t listen, and now look at the defecit, mccain was correct.
Voted against ending the death tax-again stressing the need to cut spending first, and maintain fiscal discipline.
Authored Patients bill of rights with John Edwards- oh yes the horror, bill of rights for sick people, what a bastard
Authored Mccain/Feingold - bad law, willing to appoint judges who may overturn, but is a leader in stopping people like abramoff from ruining of political system.
Authored Mccain/Kennedy/amnesty - offered the first and only soluiton to date, backed by president bush, and no where close to the reagan blanket amnesty.
Authored Mccain/Lieberman global warming - conservation is needed, whether global warming is mad made or not, green technologies that are patented in this country could bring about a new econmic boom. better safe then sorry.
Voted against drilling in ANWAR - yea, lets get off oil with….more oil.
wants to close Gitmo and bring combatants to the US - i think GITMO is too good for al qeada. i think having them have to share a cell in san quintin with the aryan brotherhood or some crips is quite nice. and forcing the ACLU to defend them in american courts will be beautiful. just watching the dems squirm as their beloved ALCU defened kahlid shaek muhammed would make me very happy, and be perhaps the best fundraising tool in republican history. and mccain is the authority on torture, he has earned that right, period.
gang of 14 - every one of the judges passed, your point?
btw, their was a president who raised taxes, gave blanket amnesty, increased the size of the federal goverment, was old and not the brightest person in the room, and cut and ran from lebbanon after 240 marines were killed by terrorists. that man was ronald reagan, and its seems that he would not get your vote, showing that you mitt bots are clueless about the clear and important difference between leadership and idealogical purity.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Beth, its so much more than “calling Mitt a draft dodger” that makes Matt look dumb……
February 4th, 2008 at 12:40 am
And actually its really close here in GA. PPP and Insider Advantage have Romney up 1.Rasmussen has McCain up 2.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:40 am
i dunno if it does stephen, but i know that a man who has only been with one woman his whole life is probably a little screwed up in the head.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:41 am
Clearly Mitt wouldn’t be going back to California tomorrow unless the internals of the polls that came out today gave a clear indication that a few districts are close….he wants to win them. McCain, for some insane reason, maybe because he IS insane, is not campaigning in California at all, despite it having far more delegates than any other state that votes on Tuesday. A California victory, combined with enough delegates from a bevy of smaller states, will mean instant credibility and campaign viability going forward. Mitt can win the nomination.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:42 am
Matt, post 93 was great. Now go tell Republicans that you and McCain were right on each of those things and then ask them for their vote.
They will tell you to go to hell. It isnt conservative. Not any of it.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:43 am
Matt, tell Brittney hello. You are a waste of my time and am moving on.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:43 am
“Voted against Bush tax cuts - to make a point that the president needed to cut spending too, bush didn’t listen, and now look at the defecit, mccain was correct.”
That’s why he used classwarfare rhetoric then?
February 4th, 2008 at 12:43 am
3 deferments for the brave mittflopper! anyone think this guy would have lasted a day in hanoi? didn’t think so. soft mitt needs to move on, he’s not cut out for commander in chief.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:45 am
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YKqNMxl_BgM
February 4th, 2008 at 12:45 am
was mccain right about bush’s spending and expansion of government, yes or no? check and mate.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:48 am
“Voted against Bush tax cuts - to make a point that the president needed to cut spending too, bush didn’t listen, and now look at the defecit, mccain was correct.�
Matt why is MccAin for the tax cuts now when there is still huge spending and a deficit and a war that will require funding? McCain is pandering and he flipped.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:48 am
by husky’s definiton ronald reagan is not a conservative. the truth is ronald reagan loved mccain, just as nancy does. when reagan made his famous speech in 1974, he had 3 pow’s by his side, one was lt. john mccain. reagan would have despised romney, just as all the other candidates do.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Matt,this has been a little entertaining, and here I though through much of this thread
that you were a serious thinking follower of political things. Alas, your last post about someone being screwed up in the head because he has spent his whole life with the same woman tells me that you are not someone with whom I could hold a conversation of substance. You have just established the
shallowness of your soul. Bouna Notte.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:49 am
McCain and Huckabee have taken on the classwarfare rhetoric of the Democratic Party. It’s quite disgusting.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:50 am
um stephen, who was it that brought up relationships with woman as justification in the first place. apparently you are a victim of your own hypocrisy. say one thing, then criticize someone for the same thing. you are a perfect romney supporter.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:50 am
mccain was wrong to vote agaisnt the tax cuts because the economy needed that at the time. McCain admits he doesn’t know a lot about economics, Mitt does. Like him or not, you gotta give Mitt credit on that…he does understand economics. Mitt haters, rip that all you want!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:50 am
mccain is for the tax cuts because when he is president he can undo alot of bush’s insane spending.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Advantage Romney on the spending, taxes, and the economy. McCain is not the man, my friends.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:55 am
I’m starting to think Matt is someone parodying a Mccain supporter
February 4th, 2008 at 12:56 am
mccain is very good on spending and controling the size of government. the truth is the gap in foreign policy between mccain and romeny is gigantic compared to the rather small divide on the economy. the fact is, mitt was a lousey governor who couldn’t beat deval patrick so he ran away. massachusetts now has huge debts because of romney’s socialist healthcare. the courts are also a disaster because mitt appointed more democrats to the bench then republcans, including members of the ACLU. running bain capital is cute, it really is, but he is no commander in chief, not even close.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:57 am
im starting to think mitt supporters are really democrats trying to hurt the republicans by nominating romeny, the guy who is trailing by huge numbers in general election matchups, over mccain, who is beating both democrats in polls.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:58 am
Matt, I give up. You lack the intellect or verbal capacity to articulate your thoughts coherently.
Again, I say, Good night.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:59 am
dont worry stephen, mitt will be giving up really soon as well, and i shall return to mock and laugh your magic mormon!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:59 am
i was tempted ,stephen, to support mitt, if only to find out why the hell mormons need magic underpants.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:00 am
big love is a good show though, ill give mitt that ahahahahahaha
February 4th, 2008 at 1:00 am
not every day you can get a president with 5 or 6 first ladies ahahhahahahaha
February 4th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Can Matt be banned from here? Seriously his religious bigotry is quite disgusting.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:02 am
bigotry? if you can point out where i am wrong about mormon doctrine, let me know fooooool aahaha
February 4th, 2008 at 1:03 am
i think sean should be banned for being a coward like mitt romney
February 4th, 2008 at 1:03 am
#100 matt, you now have become an official troll and a joke.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:04 am
hobie, romeny is finished. getting mad at me won’t change that. he is done. accept it.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:04 am
#122
Your native american = israeli statement is a half truth.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:06 am
Matt it’s the mere fact that you’re even making fun of a religious group. I’m not a Mormon but I don’t put up with crap from people like you.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:07 am
#124 I have already conceded that McCain will win the nomination. I don’t disagree with you.
However, understand that McCain will lose the general. There isn’t a large enough difference between him and hillary for america to choose a republican in an “change” election.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:10 am
in a change election, how is a clinton change? bush clinton bush clinton is not change. she will lose credibility on iraq, lose trust because a history of scandal and lies, and mccain’s heroic story will seal the deal, along with enough angry obama-liberals not voting for her and lieberman dems supporting mccain. the liberal base will take 4 years of mccain, let him win the war, and try again with obama in 2012 against either mccains vp or general petraeus.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:14 am
This is a change about parties. Americans will choose the other party unless the Republicans field a candidate that presents a compelling argument that they can change washington. McCain doesn’t rise to that level.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:14 am
LOL if McCain only wants to be a 1 termer then why’s he running?
February 4th, 2008 at 1:16 am
Whats with this General Petraeus for President stuff? See folks this is why we a civilian run the military otherwise.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:19 am
This is why we have a civilian run the military*
February 4th, 2008 at 1:19 am
Matt is so caricaturized I almost think he’s a joke poster…
February 4th, 2008 at 1:22 am
PnGrata #133, I was thinking the same thing.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:27 am
new zogby poll….
Romney 40%
McCain 32%
February 4th, 2008 at 1:27 am
in california
February 4th, 2008 at 1:30 am
CM don’t post something unless you have a link.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:31 am
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAN0345866120080204
February 4th, 2008 at 1:32 am
also on Drudge at the moment
February 4th, 2008 at 1:37 am
Thanks
February 4th, 2008 at 1:43 am
Even if Romney wins CA, if he loses Ga and MO to McCain it over.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:49 am
How many delegates will Romney get if he wins Utah, Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, Alaska, West Virginia, Massachusetts, and a split in California?
February 4th, 2008 at 1:50 am
Why Ga? It’s not winner take all like MO is.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:50 am
Its pretty ridiculous to have this entire board trying to talk AROUND Matts obscene bigotry. Really - can we get some monitoring on these boards here. If it were racial slurs, I am sure it would be! It is just as offensive. So Matt - get a life, grow up, and find some friends in the real world. I am sure this site does not welcome your brand of bigotrist sophistry.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:51 am
Someone needs to put up that Zogby poll.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:54 am
Zogby poll story….
Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, led McCain 40 percent to 32 percent in California, where the margin of error was 3.3 percentage points. A win in California, the most populous state, could help puncture McCain’s growing momentum in the Republican nomination fight.
McCain won the last two contests, in South Carolina and Florida, to seize the front-runner’s slot in a hard-fought Republican race despite qualms among some conservatives about his past views on taxes, immigration and campaign finance.
“Romney is widening his lead in California and has a really big advantage with conservatives,” Zogby said. “Romney winning California would give some Republicans pause when they look at McCain as the potential nominee.”
Romney said he would cut short a scheduled trip to Georgia and fly back to California on Monday for a last-minute campaign visit.
‘A GOOD SHOT’
“People there are taking a real close look at the race and it looks like I’ve got a good shot there,” Romney told reporters.
In Missouri, McCain leads former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee by 35 percent to 27 percent, with Romney in third place at 24 percent. The margin of error was 3.4 percentage points.
“Huckabee and Romney are splitting the anti-McCain vote in states like Missouri,” Zogby said.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:51 am
zogby is the only poll that has romney ahead. kind of like how zogby saw the iowa race ‘too close to call’ until huck blew mitt out. just like zogby saw mitt ‘leading’ in florida. this seems to happen every primary. mitt is done, even if california was winner take all and he bought it, the race is over, so mittbots go away please.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:53 am
drudge is a known romney supporter, which is why suffolk and mason-dixon polls that had mccain up 7 and 9 in california are ignored. drudge is the net limbaugh, he is meaningless. romney is done.
February 4th, 2008 at 3:06 am
#94 - I was being kind.
February 4th, 2008 at 4:50 am
Matt,
Zogby actually has a decent track record this cycle. And I say this as someone that absolutely hates Mitt Romney. That said, Romney isn’t up 9 points in CA - maybe a couple of points though. The problem for Romney is that after spending $2M in the Golden State on advertising in the last week it’s still not going to help him in the blue districts where Hispanics live because he’s been playing the anti-immigrant card for months. Romney could win the popular vote and still be behind in the delegate count in CA - or just barely ahead. McCain is going to get a sizable chunk of delegates from CA either way. Plus, Romney is behind in MO and a new Strategic Vision poll just released shows him behind in Georgia - just like the Rasmussen poll showed him behind in Georgia. He’s going to lose the entire northeast. CA is his only bright spot at all. It’s just not going to be enough.
February 4th, 2008 at 4:57 am
“drudge is a known romney supporter, which is why suffolk and mason-dixon polls that had mccain up 7 and 9 in california are ignored.”
That is definitely true. Drudge only makes a point to post polls favorable to Romney. The way it works is that Drudge scours the internet for slanted or favorable stories to the right-wing cause. Then lazy lardbottom Limbaugh, without actually doing any work, sees these stories and rants about them on his show. Other right-wing talk radio blabbermouths do the same thing. National Review chimes in. Rush french-kisses National Review columnists derriers and blabs about that. And that’s how you get your far-right wing noise machine.
February 4th, 2008 at 5:17 am
Tom Bevan at RCP echoes what I’ve been saying for days.
Democrats allocate their delegates proportionally, but Republicans allocate them winner take all by Congressional district. So each of California’s 53 districts, irrespective of its partisan composition, awards three delegates to the winner. That means heavily Democratic districts in the San Francisco Bay area with very few Republicans will matter just as much, in terms of delegate allocation, as heavily Republican districts in Orange County. So, depending on how the relatively small number Republicans in heavily Democratic districts vote, the delegate result could be vastly skewed from the popular vote total on Tuesday night.
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/02/california_questions.html
All that of course is good news for McCain.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:51 am
Shocking poll out today on RCP: Romney NOW LEADS IN GEORGIA! Not by much. Just one single point. But, he’s ahead.
Also, Denver Post had Rommey ahead in Colorado by 18 points 5 days ago.
I’m starting to sense that Romney’s Maine win, which surprised everyone, just completely coming out of nowheres, might be a good portend for Team Romney on Tuesday.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Eric,
“Shocking poll out today on RCP: Romney NOW LEADS IN GEORGIA!”
It’s not shocking. And it’s not new if we’re talking about the Insider Advantage poll. it was out yesterday. The NEW poll is Strategic Vision and SV, like RomLoving Rasmussen shows Romney behind by two points.
“I’m starting to sense that Romney’s Maine win….”
Romney’s Maine win didn’t net him any delegates. And the number of people that participated in it rivals the memership at a large suburban high school.
February 4th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Its ironic that if Huckabee stays in after ST, it actually increases the odds of a brokered convention.
February 4th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Matt, Jesus taught us to not cast out pearls before swine, so you’re out of luck.