Bonus: Read Geraghty’s post on the impact that McCain’s global warming ad has made among Democratic voters–you know, the folks we have to peel off from Obama in November in order to win?
I do differ with some people on this board in the sense that I think there probably is some degree of climate change and that part of it is human-caused. I think most of it is for other reasons. We have gone into ice ages and back and forth throughout history. It’s not like McCain is going to propose drastic measures like the Democrats would. If him talking about global warming makes moderate Democrats think he’s more “in touch”, I see no harm in it.
McCain’s path to victory isn’t brain surgery… he has to tack strongly to the middle on environment/energy/immigration/healthcare issues, while staying firmly planted on the right on fiscal/judicial issues. Say only enough about social issues to keep the South solid red, and add to that an ongoing narrative about a strong, steady hand on defense/foreign policy
Conservatives may not like it, but the country accepts that global warming is real. That debate has been lost. McCain’s approach - acknowledge the problem but apply market-based solutions - is about as good as it’s gonna be for conservatives.
Bottom line is, George Bush has pretty much destroyed conservatism as a viable governing force. Thanks a lot, Karl.
Bonus: Read Geraghty’s post on the impact that McCain’s global warming ad has made among Democratic voters–you know, the folks we have to peel off from Obama in November in order to win?
Obese and overweight people require more fuel to transport them and the food they eat, and the problem will worsen as the population literally swells in size, a team at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine says.
This adds to food shortages and higher energy prices, the school’s researchers Phil Edwards and Ian Roberts wrote in the journal Lancet on Friday.
[...]
Because thinner people eat less and are more likely to walk than rely on cars, a slimmer population would lower demand for fuel for transportation and for agriculture, Edwards said.
This leads to an interesting question: Will people with a low BMI be allowed to sell carbon permits in our future Cap’m Trade system?
Is it worth pointing out that Lebron James screamed “Sit your ass down” to his own mother? Does that remind anyone of when Obama ran over his grandmother with the same bus he used to run over Rev Wright?
I wish there was someone posting serious analysis here. For example, Tom Davis’ memo is a very good read. Its mostly honest and is worthy of discussion. I think Bush’s trip to the middle east deserves discussion as well. For the second time he has gone to Saudi Arabia with hat in hand and been slapped down by the king. Maybe I am just a warmonger but I would have let the king know that my tanks could be in Riyad by nightfall. And yes I am serious. They are holding our economy hostage.
PabloZed, let’s turn the tables, shall we? By your logic, every time the United States imposes economic sanctions on a country we would be committing an act of war. That’s ridiculous.
For those who are keeping score, Bush confided in Saudi Prince Bandar that we would invade Iraq BEFORE he told Colin Powell. Then Bush “looked into Vladimir Putin’s eyes” and found another great ally in securing the world’s oil reserves. Heckofa job, Dubya!
The blue-collar whites have solidified in resistance to Obama. With the media saying that the nomination is his for 10 days there is no excuse for this.
Democrats picked the only candidate that has a 50 percent chance of losing.
When it comes to oil and energy prices, I think not only the Saudis deserve discussion, but also our very own Congressional Democrats for passing an energy bill in 2007 barring the government from purchasing gas for the military from Canada. We’re supposed to buy from the Saudis instead.
The Republican activists are so goofy lately. If they keep talking about how it’s going to be such a Democratic year, maybe it will come true. What a bunch of pansies. If I wanted to be in the party of sissies, I’d be a Democrat. “We can’t be too conservative in a year like this.” “We’ll be lucky if we can just barely hold on.” “John McCain is the only Republican who would have had any chance.” Republicans have turned into a bunch of wimps. No wonder we lose.
Bologna, conservatism wins every year if expressed articulately. I’m going to make it a goal to fight you guys tooth and nail to keep this a conservative party.
“PabloZed, let’s turn the tables, shall we? By your logic, every time the United States imposes economic sanctions on a country we would be committing an act of war. That’s ridiculous.”
Then I guess history is ridiculous because there have been many wars fought because of tariffs or boycotts of some kind. I recently read about the war between England and Sweden which was all about trade. Also, in a galaxy far, far away . . .
Adam, the last 3 Republicans to lose the White House were Gerald Ford, George H.W. Bush, and Bob Dole. They didn’t lose because they were too far to the right. No one has lost for that reason since Barry Goldwater. I don’t understand for the life of me why Republicans are so timid, but they are.
I know you guys want the same things I do though, so I shouldn’t get mad like I do. I got very angry with a friend around Christmas when I was discussing the advantages of Romney, McCain, Huckabee, etc., and he said, “You don’t seem to understand. I don’t care about stuff like that. I just want the one who is most likely to beat the Democrat.” That really hurt me because when I first met him he was backing all the right-wing candidates like I was.
Sure Romney is to the right of McCain…today. He wasn’t several months ago. Tomorrow? Who knows?
And Ford didn’t lose because he wasn’t far enough to the right either. He lost because he was stupid and said “There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe”.
Moderates like Eisenhower, Nixon and George HW didn’t lose for being too moderate either.
Limbaugh is wrong. Conservatism doesn’t win “everytime it’s tried”. If Reagan were running today there is no way he would have won as largely as he did in 1980 and 1984 because the northeast and the Pacific West have moved to the left, especially on social issues.. That’s just reality.
Clarence, I’m with your friend. I’m skeptical of political parties and most political lobbying organizations, but there are some that I agree with more than others. So I’m skeptical of the Republicans, but disagree more with the Dems in a whole-hearted, across-the-board sort of way.
I’m just glad, though, that our Founders were equally skeptical of political parties, and they set up a government that makes parties less important than individual candidates and individual electoral districts. I suppose that’s one reason I have a soft spot in my heart for JMac, even if I readily disagree with him on some issues. Obama and Clinton, on the other hand, are partisan politicians to the bone. And on the wrong team, from my point of view.
I have a soft spot for McCain too. Some of these commenters are giving him a bad name, but he will come through for us. There will be no McCain/Lieberman ticket.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I do differ with some people on this board in the sense that I think there probably is some degree of climate change and that part of it is human-caused. I think most of it is for other reasons. We have gone into ice ages and back and forth throughout history. It’s not like McCain is going to propose drastic measures like the Democrats would. If him talking about global warming makes moderate Democrats think he’s more “in touch”, I see no harm in it.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
McCain’s path to victory isn’t brain surgery… he has to tack strongly to the middle on environment/energy/immigration/healthcare issues, while staying firmly planted on the right on fiscal/judicial issues. Say only enough about social issues to keep the South solid red, and add to that an ongoing narrative about a strong, steady hand on defense/foreign policy
Conservatives may not like it, but the country accepts that global warming is real. That debate has been lost. McCain’s approach - acknowledge the problem but apply market-based solutions - is about as good as it’s gonna be for conservatives.
Bottom line is, George Bush has pretty much destroyed conservatism as a viable governing force. Thanks a lot, Karl.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Blah blah blah, I’m sick of this pessimism on the Republican side.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
If you think that’s fun, how about this bit of news: Obesity Contributes To Global Warming - Study.
Sample:
This leads to an interesting question: Will people with a low BMI be allowed to sell carbon permits in our future Cap’m Trade system?
May 16th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Is it worth pointing out that Lebron James screamed “Sit your ass down” to his own mother? Does that remind anyone of when Obama ran over his grandmother with the same bus he used to run over Rev Wright?
May 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
LOL.
I wish there was someone posting serious analysis here. For example, Tom Davis’ memo is a very good read. Its mostly honest and is worthy of discussion. I think Bush’s trip to the middle east deserves discussion as well. For the second time he has gone to Saudi Arabia with hat in hand and been slapped down by the king. Maybe I am just a warmonger but I would have let the king know that my tanks could be in Riyad by nightfall. And yes I am serious. They are holding our economy hostage.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
PabloZed, let’s turn the tables, shall we? By your logic, every time the United States imposes economic sanctions on a country we would be committing an act of war. That’s ridiculous.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Considering we are the only thing keeping the Saudi royal family in power, yeah they better start acting grateful.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
For those who are keeping score, Bush confided in Saudi Prince Bandar that we would invade Iraq BEFORE he told Colin Powell. Then Bush “looked into Vladimir Putin’s eyes” and found another great ally in securing the world’s oil reserves. Heckofa job, Dubya!
May 16th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
ARG - Kentucky:
Obama 29%
Clinton 65%
The blue-collar whites have solidified in resistance to Obama. With the media saying that the nomination is his for 10 days there is no excuse for this.
Democrats picked the only candidate that has a 50 percent chance of losing.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
There we go…more pessimism.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
not pessimism, just the facts. followed by 3 words of sarcasm.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Pablo #6:
When it comes to oil and energy prices, I think not only the Saudis deserve discussion, but also our very own Congressional Democrats for passing an energy bill in 2007 barring the government from purchasing gas for the military from Canada. We’re supposed to buy from the Saudis instead.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
The Republican activists are so goofy lately. If they keep talking about how it’s going to be such a Democratic year, maybe it will come true. What a bunch of pansies. If I wanted to be in the party of sissies, I’d be a Democrat. “We can’t be too conservative in a year like this.” “We’ll be lucky if we can just barely hold on.” “John McCain is the only Republican who would have had any chance.” Republicans have turned into a bunch of wimps. No wonder we lose.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Next McCain ad in hopes of winning over more dems?:
My favorite judge was Blackmun
May 16th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Clarence,
Conservative isn’t going to win this year. That’s just a fact. Just like liberalism wasn’t going to win in 2002.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Bologna, conservatism wins every year if expressed articulately. I’m going to make it a goal to fight you guys tooth and nail to keep this a conservative party.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
“Conservatism isn’t going to win this year. That’s just a fact.” What a WIMP!
May 16th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
“PabloZed, let’s turn the tables, shall we? By your logic, every time the United States imposes economic sanctions on a country we would be committing an act of war. That’s ridiculous.”
Then I guess history is ridiculous because there have been many wars fought because of tariffs or boycotts of some kind. I recently read about the war between England and Sweden which was all about trade. Also, in a galaxy far, far away . . .
May 16th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Clarence,
Now I see why you wanted Romney in the primary. Losing on principle is fun, eh?
May 16th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
So you are admitting that Romney is to the right of McCain?
May 16th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Fight on brother claus!
May 16th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Adam, the last 3 Republicans to lose the White House were Gerald Ford, George H.W. Bush, and Bob Dole. They didn’t lose because they were too far to the right. No one has lost for that reason since Barry Goldwater. I don’t understand for the life of me why Republicans are so timid, but they are.
May 16th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I know you guys want the same things I do though, so I shouldn’t get mad like I do. I got very angry with a friend around Christmas when I was discussing the advantages of Romney, McCain, Huckabee, etc., and he said, “You don’t seem to understand. I don’t care about stuff like that. I just want the one who is most likely to beat the Democrat.” That really hurt me because when I first met him he was backing all the right-wing candidates like I was.
May 16th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Sure Romney is to the right of McCain…today. He wasn’t several months ago. Tomorrow? Who knows?
And Ford didn’t lose because he wasn’t far enough to the right either. He lost because he was stupid and said “There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe”.
Moderates like Eisenhower, Nixon and George HW didn’t lose for being too moderate either.
Limbaugh is wrong. Conservatism doesn’t win “everytime it’s tried”. If Reagan were running today there is no way he would have won as largely as he did in 1980 and 1984 because the northeast and the Pacific West have moved to the left, especially on social issues.. That’s just reality.
May 16th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Clarence, I’m with your friend. I’m skeptical of political parties and most political lobbying organizations, but there are some that I agree with more than others. So I’m skeptical of the Republicans, but disagree more with the Dems in a whole-hearted, across-the-board sort of way.
I’m just glad, though, that our Founders were equally skeptical of political parties, and they set up a government that makes parties less important than individual candidates and individual electoral districts. I suppose that’s one reason I have a soft spot in my heart for JMac, even if I readily disagree with him on some issues. Obama and Clinton, on the other hand, are partisan politicians to the bone. And on the wrong team, from my point of view.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
I have a soft spot for McCain too. Some of these commenters are giving him a bad name, but he will come through for us. There will be no McCain/Lieberman ticket.