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John McCain may get support from an unlikely source according to a New York Times article published yesterday:
Cynthia Ruccia, 55, a sales director for Mary Kay cosmetics in Columbus, Ohio, is organizing a group, Clinton Supporters Count Too, of mostly women in swing states who plan to campaign against Mr. Obama in November. “We, the most loyal constituency, are being told to sit down, shut up and get to the back of the bus,”? she said.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:37 am
I saw an item today that Geraldine Ferraro may support McCain.
Strange bedfellows, so to speak.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:44 am
This post originally had a different title that someone must have thought was too rough.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Heh, what was it?
May 20th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Feminazis for McCain, but I just found out the owner of the site just misread it, he did not change it because he didn’t like it.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:51 am
I contribute to Blogs4McCain.com and we’ve had several commentors recently that are clearly disgruntled Clinton supporters. Some have said they are now supporting McCain, others commented that Obama deserves to loose. There is a group of Clinton supporters that clearly feel insulted, and they weren’t all women either.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:55 am
There is no group that infuriates me more than them. Even if you cast aside their war on the unborn, I had a woman at work (a customer, not a coworker) get angry at me unfairly. She has a jalapeno pepper type of personality anyway. I’ve met her before. When you meet women like that, you always feel like, at the heat of their anger, saying something that will humiliate them even more like, “Did your boyfriend just dump you or something?” However, thanks to the feminazis, women can be verbally abusive to men all they want and we can’t defend ourselves. If you say something like that to a woman, they can have you in court. Men seldom take people to court over verbal comments.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:56 am
They’re on the right side for the wrong reason. What a bunch of babies! Too bad if their girl didn’t make. The blacks could say the same if Obama didn’t make it.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Let the Feminazi Clinton supporters vote for McCain. I can’t believe they would throw their support behind somoen with such a horrible record on women’s issues simply because the female candidate didn’t win the primary.
McCain hasn’t been the best Republican in the Senate and that has pissed a number of conservatives off. But McCain has a consistant voting record against reproductive rights. So What if Hillary doesn’t win the Democratic nomination, you have a candidate who has a great record on women’s issues.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Yes, I like McCain’s record in these areas.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:04 am
There is something strangely ironic about women who call for equal rights and equal treatment, but now think a woman who has run a terrible campaign is entitled to the presidency because she is a woman. Its the worst kind of quota system. But what makes matters worse, these women are proving that they are ruled by emotion rather than reason by proposing to vote against the candidate who they mostly agree with simply because they feel “spurned.” Truly amazing.
Oh yeah, what is also illogical about these women is that if Hillary were the dem nominee McCain would obviously want to beat her too!
May 20th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Identity politics and Democrats…
Dance, my puppets, dance!
May 20th, 2008 at 11:32 am
I don’t think that’s fair. This has been a hard-fought election. And the very fact that blacks might make more trouble for the Democrats by taking their ball and going home is part of the reason why superdelegates would be afraid to deny Obama the nomination - even if Hillary wins the popular vote. Obama simply doesn’t deserve the nomination. Blacks have been bloc voting for him. The deck is stacked in his favor. His supporters are college kids that can overwhelm Hillary’s supporters in caucus states. And in primary states Obama wins more delegates because the highly concentrated black congressional districts count for more delegates than rural districts where Hillary hs been obliterating Obama.
Michael Barone wrote about this in his blog recently,
The news media has been trumpeting how it would be terrible to deny the nomination to the first credible AA candidate. I would be more worried about alienating women if I were a Democrat. That’s a much bigger bloc of voters. The blacks are going to vote Democrat by 10 to 1 margins anyway.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Democrats need to understand that Obama is not the consensus candidate. He is ahead by less than 1 percent of the popular vote and a majority of Democrats voted for someone else.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Obama will be the nominee because he will have earned the most pledged delegates, and despite your racial rants, Obama will have earned the most delegates by posting big margins in the mostly white states of Kansas, Idaho, Maine, Iowa, etc. Obama’s strategy is the key to his success. Are you suggesting that McCain should not be the nominee even though he has the most delegates?
On the subject of the popular vote, Clinton has taken to claiming the lead. Unfortunately, she further undermines her credibility by doing so because even with MI and FL counted she is behind.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
May 20th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
PabloZed,
Hillary leads by 27,000 votes over Obama when Florida and Michigan are counted. She does, however, undermine her credibility by arguing for the inclusion of the results from Michigan, where Obama had his name withdrawn from the ballot.
In order to make a legitimate claim of a popular vote victory, and give superdelegates reason to reconsider, Clinton will have to overcome the current 300K deficit, which includes the votes from Florida, but excludes those from Michigan. In all likelihood, she will accomplish that a week from Sunday in Puerto Rico, with ample room for subsequent defeats in South Dakota and Montana two days later.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Pablo,
I’m suggesting that women who support Hillary have reason to be pissed off. She has a very good shot at leading without MI after tonight and PR. The media is purposely orchestrating an attempt to try to force her out of the race to see that this doesn’t happen. Why should she exit the race? And what right do Obama supporters have to trivialize her supporters? If Obama was the great Messiah that his supporters think he is he ought to have been able to win this without depending on superdelegates.
I don’t much care about a majority of pledged delegates. Neither candidate can win without superdelegates (despite Obama’s advantages in the flawed system - that we even need to discuss superdelegates is a demonstration of his lack of broad appeal) and Hillary would probably fare much better among that foolishly conceived elite class if not for fear of black backlash.
So I’ll see your characterization of a “racial rant” and raise you a “gender-based” dismissal.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Let me try me rusty math skills. Let’s say Clinton wins PR 70-30%. In order to pick of 300k votes she will need at least 800k people to vote so she gets 560K to his 240K.
Now lets back out of that scenario and consider the facts. PR has a population of about 4 million, fewer still are adults, fewer still are registered to vote. 800k voters would represent a huge turnout. PR has previously held caucuses, where fewer people tend to vote, and not a primary. Also, Puerto Ricans don’t vote in November. So is it realistic to assume a large turnout?
The last poll I saw also gave Clinton a 13% lead, nowhere near sufficient to give her a 300k vote margin.
So the spin again crashes and crumbles against the hard cold facts.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
And you’re making my argument for me with this,
Caucus states all.
NE Caucus
Obama 68% - 26,126 votes
Clinton 32% - 12,445 votes
NE Primary
Obama 49 % - 46,279 votes
Clinton 47 % - 43,614 votes
Clearly in a primary system where everyone has an equal opportunity to vote, to cast an absentee if needed, to show up at the polling place as their work schedule allows paints a much different picture of support among various candidates.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
May 20th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that for the first time PR citizens might hold actual sway in the outcome of a US presidential election these folks are going to show up to vote.
May 20th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
When Clinton comes out and tells her followers to vote for Obama they will. She will be offered a nice position that will save face and keep her in the public eye. She may even campaign for him in some of her strongest states. I’d say the vast majority of them will vote the party ticket.
It’s only wishful thinking to believe they will follow McCain. The only hope the GOP really has are the Independents.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Let’s be perfectly honest though folks. None of know this for sure, but it seems quite reasonable that if some of those early primaries were held again, Obama would not come out on top! I realize that’s water under the bridge, but when the super delegates are making their decisions, I think the current thinking of their constituents may carry some weight, not just the primary day vote.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I wholeheartedly agree Casey! I’ve been saying that all along. McCain will have a very toough time winning. He can’t do it without the Republican base, and right now, they are feeling left out of the process.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
She sounds like one of the “unappeasables” on the right.
Look, your candidate has lost. That’s the way the process goes. She didn’t loose because of sexism, but because she’s a immensely flawed candidate. The people have spoken. Now sit down and fall in line.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Greg - were you talking to me???? I don’t want Hillary to win!!! I’m just saying I don’t think it is completely over, and that there is some logic left for the supers to still go her way. NOOO, I want to run against OBama.
May 20th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
It’s funny how in complaining about the black candidate she makes a reference to being told to go to the back of the bus. Rosa Parks anyone?
May 21st, 2008 at 8:52 am
Another thought on the “feminist for McCain” topic, as soon as his pro-life record is brought out and they are reminded about the SCOTUS replacements coming up, they will run from his as fast as their Birkenstocks will carry them.