The Candidates
Long-time readers of the comments section should enjoy this video, which accurately sums up how I feel about the race at this point in time:
You thought I’d forgotten the magic of the sled? You underestimate me, folks!
Just a little humor on this nice Sunday night.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
If only that was our nominee.
McCain will lose this election, as he should, since he has absolutely no vision on energy.
Obama is worse in nearly every regard, but he has a vision, however misguided you might find it, on energy. Romney was the only one who could have gone toe-to-toe and beaten Obama on energy, which will easily be the #1 issue in November.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
I 2nd Kevins point.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
If that was our nominee we’d go down in flaming defeat.
I for one am damn proud that Senator McCain is our nominee, and I’ll be damn proud when he’s president too.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
And the Lamb lies down on Broadway.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
#3, maybe, but at least we’d have a candidate who gave a rat’s ass about the number one issue of the day. McCain’s entire plan is to…….have a gas tax holiday? Oh, and cut spending. Brilliant.
McCain won’t drill, he won’t subsidize, he won’t do anything. He’s the status quo on gas prices, and those are $4 a gallon.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
I love the snow. Where are my skis. Oh. It’s spring. Maybe I should visit Alaska Jake.
Mitt definately has the advantage in the “family” part of things.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I would have to agree that John is pretty unvisionary, but that wasn’t his strong point in the first place. Maybe he will prove to be so bland that it will make Obama look really over the top and more the snake oil salesman that he is. Hmmm. probably not.
John will have to ride his experience ticket to the end and hope people see through Obama in time.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
7, people don’t want a steward of the country right now, they want a leader. John McCain strikes me as running for the office of Steward, not President.
Iraq is almost won. It’s a non-issue now, or almost. Someone will have to truly doubt the resolve of Obama to defend American interests to look past McCain’s weaknesses and lack of vision, especially when the economy, though not as weak as some on the left proclaim, is a step away from disaster if gas prices go to 6, 7, or 8 dollars a gallon.
That’s shutdown pricing right there. And McCain has no plan.
May 26th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
And what was Romney’s plan? Pander to every element of the Republican Party until the nomination is secured?
McCain DOES have a plan, and that is to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, whether that be via nuclear power, green technologies, or what.
The problem with you guys is that you see what you want to see. You claim McCain isn’t a leader. I couldn’t disagree more strongly. When I look at McCain, I see a man with a clear vision for America, and with a burning desire to serve it and see it continue to be the beacon of light and hope that it has been. Is McCain ambitious? Well, almost certainly. But you cannot honestly say that McCain’s lifetime is not an example of service to the country, and he views the presidency as the culmination of that service.
And one more thing: Romney lost, and endorsed McCain. Case closed.
May 26th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
As a fundraising promotion for the Winter Olympics he did the luge run at more than 100 m.p.h. By comparison, the sledding bit was a tad tame.
Patrick,
Mitt’s plan for energy, unlike McCain’s, was comprehensive and substantive. It actually included things like bringing new energy supplies and sources on line. It included budgeting for obscure intangibles like research and infrastructure. It even included drilling for oil! Now, in this day and age, who else would have ever thought up that one.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
“Reduce dependence on foreign oil” is not a plan. It’s a goal.
May 26th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
The Clark W. Romney Family Vacation…
What a dork
May 26th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
He did the ‘face first’ skeleton, right? They say he practiced like crazy for it and eventually got really good at it. It was his way of trying to identify with the athletes, by taking one of the events, and working hard to become good. Mitt is an amazing guy. I’m sorry some of you don’t realize it.
May 26th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Mitt come back! sigh
May 26th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Who let the sleds out? Who? Who?
May 26th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Too bad, while Patrick is having a profanity attack the rest of us wishing we had some leadership in this country.
May 26th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Alex - I have missed this video greatly.
Thank you for reminding us all of great sledding adventures in Utah.
Now I’ll have to use this as the link from my name as you did for quite some time Mr. Knepper.
May 26th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
And it is done!
May 26th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Maya,
I would ask you to point out where I was having a “profanity attack”.
I am merely incredibly annoyed how this piece of propaganda allows the until-recently slumbering Rombots to come out of the wood-work and sing praises to the Lord their Savior, His Royal Mittness.
Meanwhile, the rest of us back in reality still can’t stand Romney, and are incredibly pleased with the nomination of a HERO, one Senator John McCain.
And we’ll have plenty of leadership available when Sen. McCain becomes President. I think you mistake Romney’s sycophantic pandering and admitted management credentials as “leadership”.
I don’t know how many times I have to tell people that there is a difference between management and leadership. Romney has the former, I’ll give you that, but he’s no leader. If you want a leader, look at the picture underneath the heading “GOP NOMINEE” at the top of the left-hand side bar.
May 26th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
The saddest words are it might have been. Romney was a businessman. On the trail, he frequently laid out his plan for putting us in a better position in the world economy and increasing our energy independence. As president, he would have known that regulation’s not going to solve our gas problems - only more supply. If we as a country don’t like somebody else’s prices, what’s to stop us from going into business ourselves? Why not have the government develop oil reserves for times like this, so they could sell it directly to Americans until prices went back down again?
Now, we have three senators running for president who don’t understand anything about markets or running a business. In these circumstances, we’re very likely to get what we deserve in gas prices. Albert Einstein said, “Problems cannot be solved at the same level of consciousness that created them.” We really needed a smart ideas guy to solve our energy problem, and Romney could have been that for us. I guess he still could be if McCain’s smart enough to have him as an advisor.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
lol @ #9. McCain has a plan for energy independence just like I have a plan to win a million dollars. But you seem too busy slobbering all over him to see any weaknesses.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Oh, Patrick.
Your guy won the nomination. Like it or not, McCain is the guy for Republicans for 2008. While others are wishing he were not so, you show very little class in cutting down one of the guys who lost. If that’s what you want to be known for… keep on going.
McCain has plenty going for him, especially the nomination. I’m sure he doesn’t need people dissing the guys he beat.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
I miss Mitt Romney and still have my Romney for President in the window with my Romney bobblehead. Sigh!!!
May 26th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
22,
That’s easy for you to say as I stand here alone trying to defend Senator McCain.
I’ve been a commentator on this site for more than a year. Just like Sen. McCain, I always preferred having a respectful discourse over differences in ideology and where we want the party to go.
It is the comments made by the Rombots on here that are - and always have been - the incendiary ones. Again, I would point out that I was not the one who began attacking others on this thread. Have you ignored posts 1 and 2? And I quote: “McCain will lose this election, as he should…” I mean, is this the attitude of a loyal Republican? I think not.
As for what I’ve been known for here…well, as Kavon, DaveG, and LJ will point out, I hope I’ve been known for intelligent discourse while being steadfastly loyal to Senator McCain since the very beginning.
I voted for Gov. Romney in the 2002 MA elections, and after having some personal dealings with him during his term there, I swore I would never vote for him again. I’ve told that story I don’t know how many times on here to disbelieving Rombots, but apparently it doesn’t seem to stick.
So again, I think the people who start slinging mud are the last ones who should complain about cutting other candidates down.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Patrick - My statements were not anti-McCain. I know he is our nominee and I will be voting for him. When I talk about being “unvisionary” we are talking about a guy with ideas, but not many are fully thought out, not many are original from him, and not many are laid out with a path straight to it’s success. Vision is not his strong point. That is all I was commenting on, not his hero status, not his ability to lead, not his ability to stick to an idea.
Will he produce results? I sure hope so for our sake. Have I already seen him taking good ideas and sharing them? Yes. And there is nothing wrong with that. I just hope John starts putting that “leader” forward because he doesn’t have the Republicans convinced yet. If he has that skill he should be able to lay down his path, show us how we are going to get there and then convince us to follow.
I will say though that as passionate as you are about John, you are dead wrong in lumping Mitt in with the “managers” only and not “leaders”. I am not a rombot, but even I will admit that the guy has produced incredible results in his business dealings and with his family. He didn’t “manage” to get that solid family or “manage” to turn all those companies around or “manage” to produce one of the greatest winter Olympics of all time out of shambles. Ah, just splitting hairs anyway,
May 26th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Patrick - You certainly aren’t the only one trying to defend Senator McCain either. This website has a lot of commentators and I have read a lot from John supporters. The sledding video just gave everyone a chuckle. Obviously John hasn’t successfully gotten all the Romney fans into his camp yet. Do I believe they will all be in his camp come voting time? Most likely yes because he he wants to win and he will find a way to reach them. Oh, and because Obama is just that bad.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
#15- couldn’t sum it up any better.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Obama is that bad, but if McCain doesn’t come up with a comprehensive energy strategy, I might switch or stay home.
I can’t put up with $8 a gallon.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Kevin: Get a $2.99 gas card.
Obama is a worse candidate than Jimmy Carter. He does not know his left from his right when it comes to just about every issue. Obama actually reminds me of Kirk Cameron in Like Father Like Son:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093418/
but where the hec is the Father?
May 26th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Where are these 2.99 gas cards?
May 26th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
McCain/Romney 2008
May 26th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
31, I’d have to vote for that. You know Romney would be assigned to handle energy/economy matters. To our collective benefit, no doubt.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:44 am
What a great father and grandfather. I wish more fathers and grandfathers out there would emulate his example. What the world needs now is more love at home.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:12 am
Romney 2012 all the way!
May 27th, 2008 at 8:13 am
Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney! Remember the Romney rap video? I loved it! Mitt truly is an amazing man; I just hope America wakes up to that fact in time to receive the benefit of his leadership and example.
May 27th, 2008 at 8:36 am
I admire your loyalty Illinoisguy, I cannot name any figure on the national scene that I have that amount of loyalty for. I must also say that it was a good video, it is good to see the nicer side of our national figures. ITo be sure, Mr. Romney has proven his Management skills, which are needed at every level of government. Leadership and Management are two different things. I am not sure that Mr. Romney is the best leader, but perhaps, you and Act will convince me in the months ahead. I do believe that all of the candidates had their strengths and weaknesses, but we cannot mix and match.
On another note, I did take a look at Mr. Romney’s PAC and I was impressed with the candidates that were being supported by the PAC.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:22 am
McCain/Crist..
May 27th, 2008 at 9:25 am
McCain/( Not Romney or the Huckster)
May 27th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Crist will be a huge drag on the ticket. Whether or not they are true, a never married man his age with rumors of his homosexual tendencies will not fly with the American electorate. Maybe someday, but not 2008.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:33 am
You are correct Illinoisguy, that this will not fly in 2008. The question is, Do we believe rumors or give him the benefit of the doubt?
May 27th, 2008 at 9:42 am
In my mind, it makes no difference how we as individuals treat it, the fact is that as a conglomerate electorate, it will kill McCain’s chances of election.
May 27th, 2008 at 10:39 am
From a political point of view, I think you are right.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:34 am
uhm…who cares that Crist is single? I would rather have him single then be in a sham marriage like Willie Clinton and mess around with interns.
Palin is my first choice, but Crist is such an excellent communicator and if he takes Florida out of play, that leaves $ for Ohio and Michigan.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Romney was a disater of a candidate. How could anyone actually think he would be a good choice. He out-spent Huckabee 10-1 in Iowa and was the first Mass. Governor not to win New Hampshire in US history. Do you realize how big that was? The first ever in history to not win New Hampshire.
Just because Coulter and Limbaugh like him, does not mean they were correct.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Kristofer:
With respect, in an Obama-McCain race, Florida is already out of play with or without Mr. Christ, but I like the idea have having more money available for my state of Ohio.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Ohio-Joe, I know every keeps saying it is out of play, but I have to see it to believe it.
Last election, NM went GOP and NH went Dem. Anything is possible.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
In a way, I have to admit, the margin is not comfortable in Florida, but if we cannot win Florida, it will be tough to win states like Ohio. I think we have a slight advantage in Ohio, but I also think that our comfort level is lower in Ohio than Florida. I realize tha political landscape can certainly change, but that is how I see it today.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
But didn;t the Ohio voters reject Obama in the primary?
May 27th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Yes they did which is why in part I am confident that Mr. Obama will be beaten. On the other hand, I know that many of the people who voted for Mrs. Clinton were actually Republicans making trouble (I personally know some of them.) Furthermore, Mr. Obama does slightly better among Independent than Mrs. Clinton in Ohio. These people may not have voted in the primary. I realize that the landscape can change a bit, so we will see.