June 11, 2008

Hugh Hewitt: Romney at the Top of the Veep List

H/T - RedState:

Mike Allen of Politico.com just told me that indeed retired USMC General Anthony Zinni is near the top of the Obama list, and that there are four on the McCain list: Romney at the top, with Rob Portman, Eric Cantor and Tom Ridge also in the hunt.

by @ 9:49 am. Filed under Mitt Romney, Veep Watch
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158 Responses to “Hugh Hewitt: Romney at the Top of the Veep List”

  1. Clarence Claus Says:

    I have never heard of Eric Cantor.

  2. Clarence Claus Says:

    Oh, Virginia 7, okay.

  3. Kavon W. Nikrad Says:

    Nice to know you’re an avid reader of this site Clarence :) !

    I’m kidding… I’m kidding…

  4. Greg Says:

    Out Of Mccain list Romney is the only acceptable to me!

  5. Clarence Claus Says:

    There are two dilemmas with Romney. The first is does he help so much in Michigan that it outweighs however much he hurts the ticket in other states (if he does hurt it). Secondly, McCain has to personally feel comfortable with him. I like Romney, but if McCain doesn’t, he shouldn’t pick him. In 2004, Kerry regretted picking John Edwards (who he personally didn’t like) over Dick Gephardt (who he did like). It turned out Edwards didn’t even help in North Carolina or anywhere else, and Kerry lost anyway. You have to be true to yourself.

  6. Kavon W. Nikrad Says:

    Greg #4,

    Yeah… Eric Cantor and his 96 lifetime ACU rating would really suck…

  7. Clarence Claus Says:

    April 23? Maybe I went to bed early that night since it was the night after Pennsylvania:) Greg, why is Romney acceptable and Rob Portman for example is not? What is it about Portman that you don’t like?

  8. Clarence Claus Says:

    The problem with Cantor is if I haven’t heard of him, his name ID must be really low because I’m a political junkie. He might help with the Jewish community, but that’s a pretty small percentage of the population and is basically only relevant in Florida. He might help secure part of Virginia depending what part of the state his district is in. He has some experience with national security issues. Greg, if anything he’s probably to the right of Romney, I doubt Romney would have gotten a 96 if he were in the House.

  9. Kavon W. Nikrad Says:

    That’s right Man… April freakin’ 23rd… That’s how far ahead of the curve we are here.

  10. Palin for VP! Says:

    Kind of an odd list. I’d be a little skeptical due to the high placement of Romney, (I personally have trouble bbeleiving that McCain really wants Mitt), the presence of Ridge, and the absence of Pawlenty. I won’t say much about Palin, since I have a bit of a conflict of interest there, but I’m thinkiing that she would be somewhere on the list as well.

    Maybe Allen has some sources, but even if he does have an accurate list, I don’t think he has the WHOLE list.

  11. Greg Says:

    he can’t help win states and Mccain mitt can and am talking big states like chances in MA CA maybe a chance in NY aslso when likely will vp announcements be made any one know?

  12. Clarence Claus Says:

    Novak was the first one to find out about Portman. As far as Mitt, it gives it a little more credibility if Allen is the one reporting it and not Hugh Hewitt himself.

  13. Palin for VP! Says:

    That said, I think he may have a decent list when it come to Obama…as the Senators and Reps talked to by the Dem VP search team seem to have vvery loose lips.

  14. Clarence Claus Says:

    Mitt helps in California and New York?

  15. Clarence Claus Says:

    Who has been talked about lately for Obama? Anyone know?

  16. Kavon W. Nikrad Says:

    Clarence #15,

    Gen. Zinni is supposedly the frontrunner according to the whispers out there.

  17. Clarence Claus Says:

    I just read that Obama is considering a 50 state strategy. I think Obama admires Dean a lot. It’s fine to try to win 50 states, Reagan and Nixon almost did it. However, my personal opinion is that you only go after the marginal states after you’ve secured the base states and the swing states. So McCain should only go after California if he’s already secured Ohio, Michigan, etc., maybe that’s old-fashioned thinking though, and the strategy did work for Dems in ‘06.

  18. MetroRepublican Says:

    Would Mitt really be buying a $12 million house in California right now if he were on the top of the VP list? What happened to feeling their pain?

  19. Gary Matthew Miller Says:

    Of this list, Romney is my fav. But if another Romney supporter tries to make the case that he will carry MI I will reach through the internet and slap him/her.

  20. Kavon W. Nikrad Says:

    Here’s Zinni on Iraq before a Republican President:

    On March 15, 2000, Zinni testified before Congress that “Iraq remains the most significant near-term threat to U.S. interests in the Persian Gulf region. This is primarily due to its large conventional military force, pursuit of WMD, oppressive treatment of Iraqi citizens, refusal to comply with United Nations Security Council resolutions (UNSCR), persistent threats to enforcement of the no-fly zones (NFZ), and continued efforts to violate UN Security Council sanctions through oil smuggling.”

    “While Iraq’s WMD capabilities were degraded under UN supervision and set back by Coalition strikes, some capabilities remain and others could quickly be regenerated. Despite claims that WMD efforts have ceased, Iraq probably is continuing clandestine nuclear research, retains stocks of chemical and biological munitions, and is concealing extended-range SCUD missiles, possibly equipped with CBW payloads. Even if Baghdad reversed its course and surrendered all WMD capabilities, it retains the scientific, technical, and industrial infrastructure to replace agents and munitions within weeks or months. A special concern is the absence of a UN inspection and monitoring presence, which until December 1998 had been paramount to preventing large-scale resumption of prohibited weapons programs. A new disarmament regime must be reintroduced into Iraq as soon as possible and allowed to carry out the mandates dictated by the post-Gulf War UN resolutions.”

    Zinni also warned about terrorism: “Extremists like Osama bin Laden and his World Islamic Front network benefit from the global nature of communications that permits recruitment, fund raising, and direct connections to sub-elements worldwide . . . Terrorists are seeking more lethal weaponry to include: chemical, biological, radiological, and even nuclear components with which to perpetrate more sensational attacks . . . Three [Iraq, Iran and Sudan] of the seven recognized state-sponsors of terrorism are within this potentially volatile area, and the Taliban regime in Afghanistan has been sanctioned by the UN Security Council for its harboring of Osama bin Laden. Nearly one half of the 28 recognized terrorist organizations have operational sites within the region. Afghanistan has emerged as a catalyst for regional instability offering sanctuary, support, and training facilities to a growing number of extremist elements.”

    Here’s Zinni’s after the invasion:

    The Bush administration “had to create a false rationale for going in to get public support.” Zinni said that “the books were cooked, in my mind. The intelligence (that supported the claims made to support the need for war) was not there.”

  21. LogcabinGOP Says:

    http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/11/centrist-democratic-congressman-wont-endorse-obamathe-most-liberal-senator/

    It has started. Democratic Congressman refuses to support Obama. A “little birdy” at the Californian Republican party HQ said there are more to come, and maybe McCain endorsements.

  22. aerofanatic Says:

    Romney STRATEGICALLY is the best choice for 2 reasons :

    1. He keeps the mountain west RED, and turns Michigan and New Hampshire red.
    2. What is Romney’s biggest liability/issue? RELIGION. The Democrats would be FOOLS to bring this up….as it brings up Wright/Pfleger, etc.

    So, to ME…Romney helps in ALOT more ways than he hurts. Also, Romney can be billed as the “economic guru” while McCain handles security. A true “ticket” when the economy is the #1 issue with 80% of the voters.

  23. Sean P Says:

    If this is indeed the short list, I’d go with Romney, but mainly by default (seriously, this can’t posisbly be the best McCain’s people can come up with, is it?). Cantor is not a statewide representative so he won’t help much in Virginia and he doesn’t have enough name recognition to attract Jewish voters (which I assume are the two reasons he is being seriously considered), and has no executive experience to boot. And as for Portman and Ridge, let me just say this:

    No current or former Bush Administration officials!

    No current or former Bush Administration officials!

    No current or former Bush Administration officials!

    Sorry if I sound like a broken record repeating that mantra, but if anyone is sick of me bringing it up now, just think of how much mileage the Obama campaign will wring from it.

  24. Palin for VP! Says:

    #16,

    Okay, now I’ll plug Palin ssince we’re bringing up Zinni. Yesterday, Allahpundit over at Hot Air made the point that that selection of a former general by Obama would make the case for a Palin selection by McCain. If Obama goes for an older male with no previous political experience, a lot of Hillary’s people might get angry, and we have a better shot at independent women.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/10/obama-looking-at-retired-general-for-vp/

    Hat tip to Flap on that one: http://flapsblog.com/2008/06/10/if-obama-chooses-a-retired-general-for-vice-president-then-should-mccain-choose-alaska-governor-sarah-palin/

  25. mike Says:

    # 17 The best move by both is to treat this as rs/bs strategy
    and focus on the swing states. I would even argue Obama is
    wasting resources in FL as many of the older Dems love McCain
    here, maybe try a little but if no results move on. McCain needs
    to live in Ohio, Mich, Penn etc to win this thing.

  26. Palin for VP! Says:

    #23,

    Great points…which is why I don’t think this is the real list.

  27. www.act-blog.co.nr Says:

    Hewitt isn’t exactly what you would call an unbiased source, but this story is nothing new.

    “But if another Romney supporter tries to make the case that he will carry MI I will reach through the internet and slap him/her.”

    Did you see the SUSA polls?

  28. Kristofer Says:

    Obviously Palin is my first choice, but the McCain team must have polling data for MI and MA (remember recent polling has McCain within 5 points in MA) showing the Romney name having high approval ratings. Cantor is an interesting choice. There must be something we do not know about their relationship?

  29. Joe M Says:

    These McCain quotes just in:

    As Newsmax’s Insider Report disclosed last week, a source close to the mayor told an interviewer that after a recent breakfast meeting between McCain and Bloomberg, the mayor was on McCain’s “short list” for the vice presidential slot.

    McCain also had praise for former GOP rival Rudy Giuliani, who endorsed McCain after dropping out as a presidential candidate, and told the Post he would have a role in a McCain administration.

    McCain even had nice words to say about Hillary Clinton, noting that she has “reached across the aisle” and worked with McCain on several issues.

    But he said Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is promoting a “radical” and “partisan” agenda.

    GO MCCAIN - - THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF HE SHOULD BE SAYING (ESPECIALLY THE LAST ONE)

  30. marK Says:

    Fantastic! Another “INSIDER SCOOP!!!“. Wow!

    I vote we give this piece of monumental, breathtaking, earth-shattering news all the attention it merits.

    Wasn’t it just last week when a top McCain “insider” breathlessly revealed that Romney was nowhere on the list? Now Mitt leads it.

    Well, I’m certainly impressed. Aren’t you?

  31. www.act-blog.co.nr Says:

    Actually, the list sounds reasonable. I don’t know a thing about Eric Cantor, but the Ridge and Portman have been mentioned frequently.

  32. Aron Goldman Says:

    Kavon,

    Back on April 2nd, you posted an article under the title “McCain Begins Compiling the Veep List”, and asked everyone to post in the comments section who they think are the names on McCain’s list.

    Aron Goldman Says:
    April 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    1. Rudy Giuliani
    2. Tim Pawlenty
    3. John Thune
    4. Joe Lieberman
    5. Lindsey Graham
    6. Mike Pence
    7. Charlie Crist
    8. Condoleezza Rice
    9. Mitt Romney
    10. Tom Ridge
    11. David Petraeus
    12. Eric Cantor
    13. John Roberts
    14. Sarah Palin
    15. Jon Huntsman
    16. Newt Gingrich
    17. Haley Barbour
    18. Bobby Jindal
    19. Kay Bailey Hutchison
    20. Rick Perry

    http://www.race42008.com/2008/04/02/mccain-begins-compiling-the-veep-list/#comment-289439

  33. Adam Says:

    McCain has no business going after Michigan until he shores up Ohio and the states that border Arizona. The way to win is to secure the states that have voted Republican in the recent past. Michigan and Pennsylvania are no guarantees. There is no proof that Romney can deliver Michigan. Even if Romney helps in MI, at best McCain/Romney has a less than fifty percent chance in the state. And if anything Romney hurts the ticket in Ohio.

    Putting Romney on the ticket to chase a rainbow in Michigan at the expense of Ohio’s 20 electoral vote’s is just a really stupid idea.

  34. Joe M Says:

    #16 - oBAMA - zINNI…??? Sounds as weird as it looks …I DOUBT IT

  35. Adam Says:

    And Hugh Hewitt : Mitt Romney :: Chris Matthews : Barack Obama.

  36. aerofanatic Says:

    Why does Romney HURT in Ohio? Ohio and Michigan are both one in the same. They need someone with economic juice, to help get jobs back to the states.

    How possibly could Romney hurt in Ohio?

  37. LogcabinGOP Says:

    Another defection.

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/jewish-dem-donor-joins-mccain-team-2008-06-10.html

  38. marK Says:

    Adam #32,

    Actually, Adam, there is plenty of “proof” that Mitt would deliver Michigan. It just not proof you want to accept. You prefer the “proof” that he won’t.

    So which “proof” is correct?

  39. Mark Says:

    Where does this talk of Romney hurting Ohio come from?

  40. DaveG Says:

    I think Portman and Cantor are partially being considered because of their respective states. I don’t think a congressman can help win a state the way a governor or senator can though.

    I would go with Ridge, but we’ll have to wait and see what McCain does.

  41. Adam Says:

    aero,

    You don’t know Ohio. First, Romney doesn’t have the ability to relate to the working class. In exit polling only high-income voters pulled the lever for Romney. Ohio has been hurting economically for years and in tough economic times in industrial states people actually vote for someone who can “feel their pain”. Think Bill Clinton in 1992. As we’ve been through many times on this site ad nauseum, Romney is a rich CEO of privelege. Even if Romney’s economic message were gold, he can’t sell it to the working class of Ohio.

    Secondly, uber-religious evangelicals are already suspicious of McCain. Romney will do nothing to calm their fears. Those same types of people voted for the pauper Huckabee just to deny the nomination to Romney in Iowa. And this occurred despite Romney’s camping out in the state for a year, buying caucuses and meals for everyone. This same problem will manifest itself in Ohio. Evangelicals will not come out en masse to vote for a Mormon. They just won’t. Especially not a rich Mormon with sincerity questions.

  42. Aron Goldman Says:

    Somewhat off-topic…

    I’m not sure if this merits a front page post…yet, but Obama has refused to release his birth certificate, causing rumors and theories to spread across the blogosphere over the past few days as to what he could possibly be hiding.

    Here are some of the questions that have been circulating:

    Was he actually born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and therefore ineligible for the presidency?
    Is his given name Barry, not Barack?
    Considering his mother and father were never legally married, is his last name Dunham?
    Is his father’s race listed as Arabic, not Black, thereby making Obama Arab-American; not African-American as he identifies himself?

  43. Adam Says:

    marK,

    The only “proof” is a single Survey USA poll that showed name recognition more than anything else. You know, the same sort of thing that all you Romney backers warned wouldn’t last with Giuliani.

  44. Mark Says:

    “Romney doesn’t have the ability to relate to the working class”
    “Romney is a rich CEO of privelege”

    ummm….

    Romney started his own business from the groud up.

  45. OHIO JOE Says:

    The talk about Mr. Romney hurting us in Ohio is because he does not appeal to us. He has roots in Michigan, but not Ohio. I do not thing he will do great damage in Ohio, but he is not going to be of great benefit in Michigan. So those two states are a wash (3 point different.) To be sure, I do know several Romney supporters in Ohio, but many of them did so with the understanding that he was only the best of what was available. Few people (although some) hate Romney, but he simply does not excite many Ohioans.

  46. BarkTwiggs Says:

    Aron,
    I susbscribe to the embarrasing actual birthname theory: Barry Muhommed Barack!

  47. Mark Says:

    Believe it or not Romney is part of a monority that have actually worked in the business sector outside of politics.

  48. Adam Says:

    “Romney started his own business from the groud up.”

    Wow man. You got me. That totally shows he can win the votes of rural Evangelicals.

  49. Mark Says:

    minority

  50. Jonathan Says:

    Well, you can certainly take Crist off the list. McCain will carry Florida without any of his help.
    Not only is that Jewish donor not supporting Obama, but Rep Mahoney of FL-16 is refusing to endorse Obama and
    not going to the Convention in Denver.

  51. Mark Says:

    Adam, who are you thinking of?

  52. Adam Says:

    Pawlenty or Palin. McCain has got to find a way to keep the so-cons on boad without alienating the middle. Romney fails on both counts because all of his past statements will be used against him. Democrats are already distorting McCain’s “100 years war” comments. Imagine what they will do with legitimate position shifts by Romney.

  53. OHIO JOE Says:

    Adam, I do not think, Mr. Romney’s religion is a problem for most Ohioans. I do not know any Mormons so the people that I do know that supported him are either Catholic or Protestant. Many Ohioans simple believe that he does not share our values. I for one can tolerate him, but not all Ohioans are as charitable towards him. If he were Amish, I’d have to admit, I know many Ohioans that would hold it against him, but I do not believe that Ohioans dislike Mormons per se.

  54. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    That looks like a pretty worrying shortlist to me. Cantor is interesting but underwhelming. Ditto Ridge and Portman. Surprisingly, I might actually prefer Romney if that ends up being the short-list. I read a Marc Ambinder blog the other day that said the McCain folks were awfully impressed with Pawlenty’s stint on Fox News Sunday, oppositie Kaine. I’d be awfully surprised if he’s been taken off the short-list already.

  55. OHIO JOE Says:

    That short list is rather odd. If it is not Mr. Portman or Mr. Cantor, I actually hope it will be Mr. Romney, if this list is the official list.

  56. Bushboy Says:

    Prediction - Al Gore endorses John McCain within 6 weeks.

  57. Mark Says:

    Dems will have a hard time bringing up religion with Rev. Wright and the other freak show running around. Also Harry Reid is LDS and is loved by Dems.

  58. eric Says:

    Romney started a business from the ground up?

    True or not, he will not be able to outrun the fact that he is the son of a governor-a son of privilege. And the idea that who his father was helped his business career. Does anyone really think of GWB as an entrepreneur?

  59. Adam Says:

    In a 50/50 election even a handful makes a difference. And like you said - he certainly isn’t going to add to the ticket. McCain has an excitement defecit with the so-cons that Romney won’t help make go away.

  60. OHIO JOE Says:

    Mark, on economics and business, I am mostly on board with Mr. Romney, most other Ohioans are not impressed with his business record. Ohio is not realy a Pro-business state these day. While I am Pro-Business, I am more concerned about other issues. Since my transportation costs are low, I am not as excited about the price of gas, but if Mr. Romney could convince Ohioans of his knowledge in Energy, he could generate some excitement.

  61. Mark Says:

    #58 Hopefully most people are smart enough to assume that.

  62. Brian Says:

    I like Romney, Palin, Jindal, and Pawlenty. I despise Huckabee and (as VP, not personally) Lieberman. All the others just don’t really do much for me either way.

  63. Mark Says:

    NOT!!! sorry

  64. www.act-blog.co.nr Says:

    I wonder what led McCain to rule out Pawlenty.

  65. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    Mark,

    We don’t deal in hopes but in realities and the reality is that, outside of Michigan, Romney was unable to dispel his image as an out of touch, rich, elitist. He absolutely manhandled McCain in numerous debates. On those meters he was continually above 80, and hovered above 90 for entire segments. But, there was a class barrier that prevnted him from winning even many of the voters who felt he was impressive. I love the guy, but I can no longer delude myself about that point. At times Romney was utterly mesmerixing, but at other times he was stiff, and smug, and seemingly insincere. And that matters.

  66. BarkTwiggs Says:

    #58
    Romney is everything GWB aspired to be and then some. Bush got a Havard MBA with mostly C’s. Romney finished top of the class and got an MBA / JD. Bush mismanaged and lost money in business. Romney successfully worked his way through the investment world, helping dozens of new companies grow. Bush settled on a cushy job managing baseball before easily winning gubernatorial status in safe Republican ground. Romney accepted challenging jobs with no monetary compensation like the Olympics and won the Mass governorship, in the bluest of territory.

    The difference is stark. One’s path is the least resistance. The other is extreme persistance.

  67. Kristofer Says:

    Gov. Romney comes across much more genuine as a team player, in contrast to the primary season when his team was going after Thompson, Huckabee, Rudy, and McCain.

    Although he is not my first choice and adds very little to the ticket, he certainly has impressed me the last two months. I believe him more now then before.

  68. Micah Says:

    #66. good point putting GWB next to Mitt Romney when it comes to success is quite stark.

  69. LogcabinGOP Says:

    #68, BWB is POTUS.

    With all due respect, you overlooked the fact that Bush is the most powerful person in the world. That is success, but you are correct, Romney became a successful business man, like ten of thousands before him.

  70. cwpete Says:

    Adam,

    Your remarks in #41 discredit Romney on grounds of class and religion. That’s a shame. Any prospective VP candidate should be judged upon their qualifications.

    Liberals divide by class, religion, region, sex, and race. Just look at the rifts exposed from the Democratic “progressive” party primary recently. They are divided as ever. It is all about race, sex, reigon, religion, and ecomonic class with them. Let’s not go there.

  71. Adam Says:

    cwpete,

    You go into an election with the electorate you have…

  72. Kristofer Says:

    I think Hugh’s list is wrong, check out this article from Florida quoting McCain. http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/McCain_Bloomberg_VP/2008/06/11/103549.html

  73. PeaJay Says:

    I can buy the theory romney helps in MI.

    But the Deep South? Obama wont even have to talk religion, because Mitt’s Mormonism will be a political nonstarter in this region.

  74. Aron Goldman Says:

    In an interview with Bloomberg’s Peter Cook yesterday, John McCain reiterated what he’s looking for in a running mate:

    MR. COOK: Given your national security experience, are you going to give greater weight, as you consider vice presidential candidates, choices, to someone who has got economic and business experience.

    SEN. MCCAIN: The important thing for me in a vice-presidential candidate is someone who shares my principles, my values, and my priorities. As you know, one of the hardest things for any newly elected president is to set priorities. And so that’s really primarily and almost solely the criteria that I would use for the selection of a running mate.

  75. greg Says:

    just wondering but when should we expect VP announcements?

  76. Anon Says:

    Hugh Hewitt is the BIGGEST hack on the face of the earth.

    I lived in Irvine, California when Hewitt AND the teachers union tried to force property tax increases. Irvine taxpayers slaughtered then twice, in consecutive elections, at the ballot box. Hewitt called us extremists for opposing property tax increases.

    It makes me wonder how many other “conservative” commentators are nothing but charlatans and phonies.

    Besides, Hugh Hewitt couldn’t have some ulterior motive could he? Like selling a newly irrelevant book?

  77. Aron Goldman Says:

    Asked if he had a role for Giuliani down the road, McCain said, “Oh yeah. He’s a great American. He united America,” referring to his leadership in the aftermath of 9/11.

    “I’ve been with him a lot. I appreciate more than I could tell you his friendship and support. And that was steadfast throughout the primary.”

    Giuliani endorsed McCain after dropping out as a presidential candidate, and his top fund-raisers are now raising cash for McCain.

    It’s likely that the ex-mayor will get a featured speaking role at the GOP convention in St. Paul, Minn.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/06112008/news/nationalnews/mac__mike_still_in_veepstakes_114982.htm?page=0

  78. Aron Goldman Says:

    MR. COOK: Given your national security experience, are you going to give greater weight, as you consider vice presidential candidates, choices, to someone who has got economic and business experience.

    SEN. MCCAIN: The important thing for me in a vice-presidential candidate is someone who shares my principles, my values, and my priorities. As you know, one of the hardest things for any newly elected president is to set priorities. And so that’s really primarily and almost solely the criteria that I would use for the selection of a running mate.

  79. greg Says:

    READ THIS JUST FOUND IT ON MEWSMAX.COM MCCAIN PICKS BLOOMBERG? I SAY HECKNO!
    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/McCain_Bloomberg_VP/2008/06/11/103549.html

  80. Kevin Says:

    I can certainly see him picking Giuliani, but it doesn’t help him in the rust belt at all, or out west.

    I think if polls don’t show Giuliani helping in NY or NJ to the point where they’re winnable, it won’t be him.

    Romney will unquestionably, in my view, help out west and in the rust belt. He also can beat the tar out of whoever Obama picks on the economy, and Obama himself.

  81. Ted Says:

    With all due respect this is getting pretty silly. Assuming McCain and the GOP want to win the election, as has been said, “If John McCain doesn’t choose Sarah Palin, he might have to plead temporary insanity.”

    Am I missing something here?

    This is a no-brainer! (Unless there are trolls on this site who really want the Dems to win the election, really, I’m beginning to suspect that.)

    Are you guys for real, pick Romney or pick Pawlenty, when he can have Palin???

  82. LogcabinGOP Says:

    #77; If we take McCain’s comment literally, then we need to think about someone who is against corruption and pork spending.

    - Ridge
    - Fiorina
    - Graham
    - Cantor
    - Diaz-Balart
    - Crist
    - Pawlenty
    - Romney
    - Hunstman
    - Palin

    Anyone I am missing?

  83. greg Says:

    question if your mccain do you want to announce your VP first or last? or does it matter?

  84. www.act-blog.co.nr Says:

    “when he can have Palin???”

    what exactly does Palin bring to the ticket?

  85. www.act-blog.co.nr Says:

    “question if your mccain do you want to announce your VP first or last? or does it matter?”

    Well, McCain seems to be running with the “pick late, make headlines” theme. I don’t know if he will announce first or not, but it looks like he is deffinately waiting.

    Personally, I think it would have been better to pick quickly, heal the party divisions, get the support of conservative (or, if the VP is not one, try to find a way to get them to stay with the ticket), and start running a serious campaign against Obama - with a mile-wide advantage.

  86. Ted Says:

    #83, you can’t be for real. Again, with all due respect, if you are, I just give up because I don’t think it would be worth my time to explain beyond saying go and google Sarah Palin on the web and on the blogs. I’d just be repeating what everyone else is saying.

    Are you a troll?

  87. Illinoisguy Says:

    A commenter on hughhewitt quoted McCain as recently saying “There’s nobody who represents me better today than Mitt Romney”. I wish I knew when and where he said that, but if he did, that’s a pretty strong statement.

  88. www.act-blog.co.nr Says:

    If you can’t make the argument for your guy (or gal]…

    Believe me, if every argument was only repeated once on this site, we would have been done debating things last June.

    I challenged you yesterday to give me five reasons why Palin was the best pick.

  89. Illinoisguy Says:

    #85 - “you can’t be for real. Again, with all due respect, if you are, I just give up because I don’t think it would be worth my time to explain beyond saying go and google Sarah Palin on the web and on the blogs. I’d just be repeating what everyone else is saying.”

    First of all, you rarely show ANY respect, because you treat everyone as idiots if they do not somehow leap to the conclusion that Palin is the obvious choice. I’m a huge Mitt Romney fan, but even I don’t act as if everyone is stupid if they don’t agree with me.

    Secondly, for you to include ‘repeating what everyone else is saying’ in your NONanswer is shameless. Do you know how few of you are saying that? There are many posts, but few posters! YOUR repeating your opinion a thousand times convinces no one, especially when ACT ask you for what she brings to the table, and you can’t think of anything, so you give another non-answer. I would rather have Palin than many others on here, but she has very little experience, and is completely untested and unvetted.

  90. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    Ted’s becoming a pretty heavy troll. The Palin-brigade needs to calm down. The fact that she has such enthusiastic boosters despite never having run nationally speaks well of her, but such mindlessness is a real turn-off. I’m not talking about Palin for VP or even Kristoffer (sp?). They’ve been here for awhile and seem perfectly capable of commenting on things not related to Palin. But, some folks seem slightly outlandish in their support of Palin.

  91. B Werty Says:

    Romney - YES (This would get me excited about the McCain campaign)
    Portman - Ehh (He would paint him as a economy expert but I’m not too thrilled about him)
    Cantor - Yes (Like him a lot - but Congress to VP may be too large of a leap)
    Ridge - No (Another slap to Conservatives and the fact that he served in the Bush administration may turn independents off)

    It sounds like Obama is going to pick his VP before McCain. I still think that if Obama picks a male VP, McCain calls an audible and picks a woman to try to pull in some disaffected Hillary supporters. If so, you have to figure Palin is at the top of that list with the 2 CEO’s (Whitman and Fiorina) after her.

  92. Kevin Says:

    http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/2008/view.bg?articleid=1100041&srvc=home&position=comment

    McCain digs on the Romster. Heavy.

  93. OHIO JOE Says:

    It is a shame that TED is behaving so silly. Mrs. Palin is a fine lady whether or not she ever gets on the ticket. People like Ted are becoming an embarassment. Ted: by saying nothing of substance, you look more nutty than the rest of us put together. At least the rest of us have something to say. You have practically nothing, and I thus feel very sorry for Mrs. Palin. This is a turn off.

  94. Kristofer Says:

    #83, I would like to answer your question on behalf of my energetic and dedicated friend, Ted.

    #1 No baggage
    #2 #3 Anti-corruption crusader who will help repair image of GOP
    #3 No baggage
    #4 I am not saying she is good looking, but I am saying she is extrememly telegenic (benefit to
    both male and female pol’s)
    #5 No baggage
    #6 Is a Governor, never lived in DC
    #7 No baggage
    #8 Her family looks like everyone’s next door neighbours
    #9 No baggage
    #10 She is the complete opposite of a Harvard lawyer, Chicago elitist politician
    #11 No baggage
    #12 Helps McCain with groups that are luke-warm to him, such as the NRA, Christian Right, Fiscal
    Conservatives (I am a member of the Club for Growth and I can tell you they LOVE her)
    #13 No baggage
    #14 No politician can tal about energy policy like she can, and this is becoming the #1 issue in
    America
    #15 No baggage

    If women vote for her because she is a woman, great, but that is not my reason.

  95. www.act-blog.co.nr Says:

    “#83, I would like to answer your question on behalf of my energetic and dedicated friend, Ted.”

    Thats nice of you, but I want to see for myself that Ted can actually make reasoned arguments in favor of his candidate.

  96. Kristofer Says:

    But I also like Romney, Pawlenty, Crist, Ridge, Portman, Cantor, Fiorina, etc….but not as much as my Sarah. :)

  97. Greg Says:

    Will we get vp picks before 4th july weekend? what kind of time line are we working with ?

  98. Bryan Says:

    The McCain campaign said that McCain would not make his VP choice until about 2 weeks before the convention, so mid-August. That’s why its silly to be arguing about all this VP stuff b/c so much can happen in the span of 2 months, but there’s still plenty of time for McCain to decide who he wants.

  99. Aron Goldman Says:

    Matthew,

    I think it’s safe to say that Ted, with his ludicrous lauding of Palin, has managed to usurp “Huck-a-Bust” Abe as Race 4 2008’s most incessantly annoying commenter.

  100. LogcabinGOP Says:

    Poor Teddy, Banned from other blogs, and his thumb is numb from the copy-and-paste (just teasing Ted).

    I have to admit, those polls in MA are causing me to look at Romney again as VP. If McCain is only %5 behind, could Romney get his MA organization back in place in that state?

  101. marK Says:

    This must be “Pile on Ted” Day. In his defense, challenging him to name just one thing that Palin brings to the ticket can hardly be called a serious question. I certainly don’t think Palin is the best choice, but that doesn’t keep me from thinking of a number of positives for her right off the top of my head.

    If McCain wanted to play identity politics, he could do a whole lot worse than choosing Palin. But Republicans traditionally don’t like to play identity politics. The last one who tried was Huckabee. He didn’t succeed.

    If the best man for the V.P. job happens to be a woman, then so much the better. But if she is the best man BECAUSE she is a woman, then McCain should not pick her.

  102. Ted Says:

    OK, again, here are 2 BIG reasons:

    1. Current oil/energy situation.

    2. Disaffected female Hillary voters situation.

    Please connect the dots.

    Palin is perfect.

    I want the GOP to win the election.

    Do I have to list all the fantastic stuff in Palin’s incredible bio?

  103. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    LogCabinGOP,

    It’s not clear Romney ever had an organization in Massachusetts. It’s not like he spent decades in the state building a base. He ran exactly two races there, nearly a decade apart, ran both almost entirely on his own finances, and didn’t start running for Go\vernor until perhaps 5-6 months before the election. Plus, he’s massively unpopular there. If we’re interested in carrying Mass Weld/Celluci/Carcieri would be more effective.

  104. Ted Says:

    I’d suggest you view the following C-Span Washington Journal segment from Sun, 6/8, to see the vital importance of having Sarah Palin on the ticket, and none other. Watch the whole thing.

    rtsp://video1.c-span.org/archive/c08/c08_wj060808_oconnor.rm

  105. Kristofer Says:

    Ted….since most of us are Moderate Conservatives, Conservative or Libertarians on this site, we should be against quota’s or identy politics. Certainly John McCain must pick someone who meets his criteria and can help him govern.

    Could anyone tell me about Engler? Where is he and what is he doing?

  106. Dan Says:

    I have a hard time beleiving this articles given the source. If Hewitt didn’t lost all credibility when he expressed support for the Harriet Mires nomination then he lost the rest of it over the past year with his over-the-top shilling for Romney.

    And could someone please explain to me why they think Romney helps in the Mountain West because I live in CO and, sadly, it’s turned very blue in recent years; I can’t see Romney changing that when he (claims) to be to the right of McCain.

  107. Ted Says:

    And in particular, listen to the second caller to the program (as well as the whole thing, because there are repeated references to both Palin and to a woman Veep for McCain).

  108. LogcabinGOP Says:

    #102, I guess that would explain why he is the first MA givernor even to be defeated in a NH primary, for any party.

  109. Illinoisguy Says:

    91 - thanks for the link, and in case anyone fails to click, the following was said TODAY “McCain gave his most ringing endorsement yet of Romney’s chances of being tapped as his vice presidential candidate during a fund-raiser Monday, saying, “There’s nobody who represents me better today than Mitt Romney.”

  110. eric Says:

    I never thought a poster here could annoy worse than the famous Rombots here in terms of inability to discuss any topic without pretending that it is proof of their candidate’s superiority.

    Congrats Ted!

  111. Ted Says:

    Please take this Q&A test:

    Question: How can McCain SIMULTANEOUSLY attract both Hillary AND Bob Barr voters?

    Answer: PALIN Veep!

  112. LogcabinGOP Says:

    Ted, who is your second choice? :)

  113. Bryan Says:

    Also it should be noted that Bob Barr has recently changed his position on Abortion and Gay Marriage and now supports both, i forgot where it was that i read that but i can find it i’m sure, so its safe to say that Bob Barr will be no threat in November b/c he is now a Social Liberal.

  114. Illinoisguy Says:

    Matthew - try to be more fair, you normally are, except when discussing Mitt lately. You say the following :

    “Plus, he’s massively unpopular there”

    Can you possibly recall that after McCain camped out for days prior to the MASS primary (plus heavily advertised), and Mitt spent no time whatsoever there nor did he spend any money on ads there, Romney still took the state by 10%+. So, if McCain is within 5% there by himself, it is entirely reasonable that Romney can add another 5%, because he is obviously more popular than McCain there, or at least he was during the primary.

  115. DSkinner Says:

    READ THE POST MORE CAREFULLY.

    It isn’t Hewitt who said this. It was Mike Allen of Politico. Hugh had him on his radio show and asked him about it. If you have a beef with the source that is fine, but at least go after the right guy.

  116. OHIO JOE Says:

    Look Ted, while it would be nice to appeal to both Mr. Barr’s people and Mrs. Clinton’s people at the same time, there is a limit to such a plan. Hillary supporters are a diverse group of characters, while Mrs. Palin may indeed attract a few to come our way, in reality they come from different sub-groups. So single VP candidate can or should bring the majority of Hillary voters on board. Yes, we need a few, but to think Mrs. Palin will somehow bring the majority of Hillary voters to our side is non-sense.

  117. Bushboy Says:

    #113, sorry, but McCain picking up 45% of the vote in Romney’s home state is impressive, but the reason why McCain campaigned there for 5 hours on the second last night was because of the MA delegate rules. I cannot remember the benchmark, but it was either 40% or 45%? In any case, McCain received a delegate boost for hitting the 45% number (think DNC primary rules).

  118. DSkinner Says:

    Mitt would have absolutely zero chance of helping win in MA. He is not as unpopular as some suggest, but there is no way he could get elected there himself, let alone pull an extra 5% for McCain.

  119. Ted Says:

    My second choice is Romney. In fact I was an early Romney supporter for POTUS, w/McCain practically my least favorite.

    But now that it IS McCain, Palin is the fit, not Romney. (Interestingly, Palin would not be as good a VP fit for Romney as she is for McCain — McCain/Palin are perfect together, transforming those media characterized negative traits of McCain into positives, when running with Palin.)

  120. jim Says:

    Is this the same Politico that has been consistently wrong for the past year?

    The same Politico that had Edwards dropping out last Spring, Thompson dropping out after Iowa, that ran with that hit piece on Rudy that was later shown to be nothing, that had hit piece after hit piece on Hillary that was wrong.

    I haven’t seen a “mainstream” outlet get so much wrong and still have any credibility left.

  121. OHIO JOE Says:

    Yes, MA is no more in play than Utah, South Dakota, DC, VT, and Alabama. If we win MA, we have already won about 45 states so to point is moot.

  122. LogcabinGOP Says:

    #118, YOU ANSWERED! I always keep the faith brother!

    When Romney was running, what did you exactly like about him? I find Romney and Palin to be very different candiates and people? It is a significant contrast.

  123. Kristofer Says:

    #119, jim Says:

    (Thompson quitting) It was proven that a Romney campaign official leaked that to Politico to discredit Fred. Too bad political did not bother getting a second source.

  124. jason Says:

    119. You’re right. Politico is a joke with a lot of arrogant reporters. But Allen is pretty solid.

  125. Anon Says:

    The MA VP poll clearly showed that Huckabee helped in MA more than Romney.

  126. Ted Says:

    Romney the most telegenic, tallest, smartest, best back ground, best debater, (If Romney was on the top of the ticket, I wouldn’t have the same worries that I do now w/McCain — but since we do have McCain, that’s where we are — and w/McCain Romney is too tall and Romney’s negatives may outweigh his positives in helping McCain — Palin would not be good VP pick w/Romney, 2 beautiful people are too much — but Palin w/McCain, wowowowowowow, can you imagine the media frenzy covering Palin and her bio!)

    And finally, who do the Dems fear the most? Answer is Palin. That says it all.

  127. Aron Goldman Says:

    Illinoisguy,

    In the recent SurveyUSA poll for Massachusetts, Obama led McCain by just 5 percentage points. However, when respondents were asked who they’d vote for in an Obama/Edwards - McCain/Romney matchup, the GOP ticket including Massachusetts’ former governor lost by 16 points.

    Thus, the reason Matthew asserted Romney is “massively unpopular there.”

  128. Laura In Alaska Says:

    #84 wrote: “Personally, I think it would have been better to pick quickly, heal the party divisions, get the support of conservative (or, if the VP is not one, try to find a way to get them to stay with the ticket), and start running a serious campaign against Obama - with a mile-wide advantage.”

    I agree that McCain needs to pick a VP sooner rather than later for two reasons.

    1. McCain needs an infusion of energy now. Speaking engagements with his VP and photo shoots will provide a welcome relief from his increasingly boring public appearances.

    2. If McCain picks Palin and does so in late August, he would rule out a lot of incredible TV spots of Sarah and her family doing all the fun things we Alaskans do in the summer (summer is short up here!). To film them on their boat while they fishing for silver and sockeye salmon would be great to include in a TV ad promoting her.

  129. Ted Says:

    I agree, McCain needs to move first and fast (w/Palin). I wrote this 3 weeks ago and it still holds:

    “Here’s an important piece of advice: If it looks like it’s going to be McCain/Palin anyway (and that should be a “no brainer” for Team McCain), McCain should announce NOW or VERY SOON, rather than later towards the convention. There’s currently a growing chorus for Obama/Hillary (as VP) ticket (in fact the Dems are likely aware of the Palin phenomenon). If the GOP waits while movement for Hillary as VP grows — even worse until after it is solidified that Hillary will/could be VP pick — selecting Palin will be portrayed by Dems/liberal media more as a reaction by GOP selecting its own female (overshawdoing Palin’s own remarkable assets), rather than McCain taking the lead on this. Selecting Palin now or early (contrary to the punditocracy) will mean McCain will be seen as driving the course of this campaign overwhelmingly, and the DEMS will be seen as merely reacting. And, there’s absoultely no down-side to this because even if Hillary is a no-go as VP for Obama, the GOP gains by acting early. McCain the maverick. Palin the maverick. Do it now!

    There’s no reason, and actually substantial negative, in McCain waiting to see what the Dems do first insofar as his picking Palin as VP, because, no matter who Obama picks, Palin is by far (and I mean far) the best pick for McCain and the GOP, especially in this time of GOP woes. The GOP can be seen as the party of real ‘change’ (albeit I hate that mantra, change, change, bla bla), while not really having to change from GOP core conservative values, which Palin more than represents.

    In light of the current oil/energy situation, as well as the disaffected female Hillary voters situation, and growing focus on McCain’s age and health, Palin is more than perfect — now.

    (Perhaps Team McCain is already on to this.)”

  130. Greg Says:

    looks like mccain might have his vp first just heard Obama Vp lead search man might have just left!

  131. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    Romney is reasonably well-liked by Massachusetts Republicans (all 13% of them), but despised by Massachusetts indies and Dems. That’s why his low favorability ratings didn’t stop him from winning the primary.

  132. Illinoisguy Says:

    Aron - thanks

    However, I do think that says a lot more about the strength of adding Edwards than on adding Mitt, and you know that, because nearly all polls have shown the same thing, that Edwards adds strength to Obama.

    Having said that, it is probably true that we will have a tough time taking MASS, no matter what we would do, so I’ll back off in thinking that we could take the state, at least not unless we take a lot of others also that we are not expecting to.

  133. Ted Says:

    Here’s a good exercise, go to Adam B’s PalinforVP.blogspot.com site, and read all of the signature comments to the petition for Palin, all of them.

    Those comments are a good cross section and say it better than I can, McCain needs Palin.

  134. LogcabinGOP Says:

    Ted,

    I still find Romney and Palin to be complete contrasts….I was just wondering how you made the transition? I am almost sold on Palin, but for her, McCain needs to wait.

    If Palin successfully passes the AGIA, it will be the largest oil and gas development in 30 years in this nation, and since oil and gas prices are primarily based on futures, we should see a sharp drop in prices upon the annoucement. Plus the fact that she was able to pass the AGIA after 30 years of failure, would then be her launching pad for her in to national politics.

  135. CBL Says:

    This is all getting a little silly… the Palin folks are as rabid as the Romney folks… so what? Both groups are a small minority of nerdy politicos.

    The fact is that McCain needs to beat Obama outright.

    A conservative superstar as VP, whoever it is, is not going to win over the mushy middle. History shows that the VP just does not make that much difference.

  136. Kristofer Says:

    #134, with respect, this is not silly, this is a forum for us to discuss and debate these issues, which is what has draw me to one of the best blogs on the net.

    And if you do not believe that our views are being watched closely by the McCain team, you are thinking 1996 politics.

    The McCain team is building the largest web/blog outreach program in election history. The blogs (including this one) are all monitored by Goldfarb, Fiorina and others, and daily.

    Announce your endorsement of McCain on your blog today, and within 24 hours you will have a letter from the McCain team. Many others who have contributed on this site have received thgese letters, and quickly.

    If you still do not believe me, as Kevon about his McCain source? —– I know, Kevon. :)

  137. jim Says:

    At least if McCain picks Romney, no matter what happens, it’s a winner from my POV.

    If they win, great, McCain will have won, Obama will have been finished, the dems will have split from the recriminations, and the Court will be ours.

    If McCain and Romney lose, that’s bad, but at least Romney will be finished in politics. To lose the nomination, then lose as VP after being hyped as the guy that can help McCain win. There’s no chance whatsoever he’d get the nomination in the future.

    So, from that viewpoint, it’s a no lose proposition.

  138. Illinoisguy Says:

    By the way, after all the hype about how Romney would hurt McCain in the South did ayone notice the SUSA Alabama poll yesterday? Interestingly enough, McCain/Romney ran better than McCain by himself in all matchups except McCain/Edwards, and in that one he ran close. Also, Mitt only ran slightly worse than Huckabee in these matchups.

    You don’t get much more Southern than Alabama.

    Also, I keep waiting for states such as Nevada to show up in their polling, but they seem to not be able to get to it. They are so busy polling states that can’t possibly matter.

  139. Bryan Says:

    Romney is on CNN’s Wolf Blitzer right now talking about the Economy and he is doing a really great job if anyone’s interested in watching.

  140. Bryan Says:

    Illinoisguy,

    You have a great point there, i just dont see how Romney will hurt that much in the South, those are states that are going to McCain anyway and Romney didnt do to bad himself in the primaries in the South either. Romney won alot of states and he will help out in the West when it comes to the Mormon’s getting out the vote. Boy i would hate to be McCain right now b/c he has such a difficult decision to make, it seems like whoever he picks will have positives and negatives, but he need’s to choose who he thinks can help him regardless.

  141. Illinoisguy Says:

    Same story in Kentucky, adding Mitt helped with every match up other than Edwards, and only slightly less with him. I hope this will stop all this garbage about how Mitt will hurt in the South. I told you all along that wouldn’t happen.

  142. Matthew E. Miller Says:

    I’m convinced that if Romney would just refrain from smiling or laughing he’d be a terrific politician. But, some consultant probably told him “hey, you look a bit like Reagan, so try to be backbreakingly sunny. Also, your smarts will come off as lecturing if you’re not smiling”. Unfortunately, Romney either looks smug or fake when he smiles,, and this has a tendency to disrupt otherwise great interviews.

  143. Kristofer Says:

    As long as the spouse of the VP has paid his/her taxes, did not receive shock therapy, or did not committ a crime, they will qualify as McCain’s VP.

  144. Ohio Repub Says:

    I have to go with Sarah Palin as my number one. Number two would be Romney. I don’t agree with everything Ted says, but he has some good points.

  145. Ted Says:

    Interesting sidebar, Rush Limbaugh focused today on the second time McCain (apparently today) equated the Grand Canyon with ANWR so as to preclude drilling in Alaska. Rush goes bonkers on this (and I certainly agree with Rush here).

    Since you guys say that Team McCain (maybe McCain himself) reads this blog, ANWR is a lottttttt different than the Grand Canyon, please get serious about this. I realize McCain’s trying to attract the moderate/swing voters — and enviro is gold to them, but things they are a changing…with the price of oil skyrocketing.

    Since Palin is on the other side from McCain on this (she favors drilling, also recently suing the feds over polar bears), McCain can play “good cop bad cop” on this issue and triangulate ala Clinton & Dick Morris. In other words, McCain can say stuff like he and Palin mostly agree, but on some issues disagree (like maybe ANWR) — both are maverick people you know — and that’s OK to disagree and McCain can play both sides, with Palin/drilling side ultimately winning out.

  146. cwpete Says:

    From the Boston Herald site

    McCain gave his most ringing endorsement yet of Romney’s chances of being tapped as his vice presidential candidate during a fund-raiser Monday, saying,

    “There’s nobody who represents me better today than Mitt Romney.”

    Interesting…

  147. BobH Says:

    Greg #96: “Will we get vp picks before 4th july weekend? what kind of time line are we working with ?”

    Extremely unlikely — VP picks are generally made no sooner than a couple weeks before the conventions — so expect August.

  148. Bushboy Says:

    Olympics in August this year.

  149. Ted Says:

    McCain saying good stuff now about Romney means, confirms to me at least, it’s NOT gonna be Romney as VP.

    And insofar as the tradition of waiting to announce Veep, this year seems different. I think Palin momentum will grow (as everyone comes around that she’s the no-brainer choice), and the key is getting her out there in the media as early as possible, getting her more well known.

    The only time factor now is making sure the Alaska pipelin thing can get wrapped up, so she has to stay on top of that. (Can she run and stay on top of that at the same time and/or there seems to be a movement for an early decision by the Alaska special session of the legislature on that.)

    Bottom line, Palin is the real item and will be MORE OF A SUPERSTAR THAN OBAMA!

  150. CT Says:

    #53 That’s most people’s problem “they do not know any mormons”…so assume the worst….. (HARRY REID is a DEM and MORMON that’s probably why THE NEGATIVE)!!!
    #125 Howard Dean Said after Mitt was out of the primary that “DEMS feared Mitt Romney the most out of the candidates”.
    Don’t have a women VP just because she is a woman…what an insult to women..The VP needs to be someone qualified to be Pres id needs be. The Dems already have a candidate that has the problem of NOT being qualified lets not pick a VP just because it might LOOK COOL!!!

  151. PeaJay Says:

    RE: Romney Polling data in the South. Polling will capture who people say they intend to vote for pretty well. I’m pretty sure the average Southern Conservative will indicate a preference for McCain over Obama. It’s almost a no brainer. What polls have difficulty in capturing is how this intent will manifest itself on election day. Will these voters show up at the polls? In what numbers? We know black turn out will be high and anti-Bush liberal vote (regardless of ethnicity) will be high. But what about turnout in the Southern Social Conservative segment? Will they be similarly enthused by a less than conservative maverick/Mormon ticket?

    And then no one is polling the third parties. It may be only a few percentage points, but in VA, NC, GA and MS that may prove crucial.

    Lastly, we have all heard about the “Bradley Effect” where people polled told the pollster they would vote for a black as not to sound racist. Could there be a “Mitt Effect” where the Mormon question is not appearing to be an issue to the pollster but really is at the ballot box.

    Just some things to ponder.

  152. Kristofer Says:

    For those who have read McCain’s biography, you understand he is the quintessential “band of brothers candidate”.

    When McCain says, “There’s nobody who represents me better today than Mitt Romney.”, he means it, and that means Mitt has impressed the McCain team. Let us no forget that Mitt dropping out early and endorsing McCain prevented a war within the GOP (see Dem race this year). McCain is smart enought to understand that.

    But, with all that said, I am not sure McCain can win this year running a traditional campaign, and even he has said that publically. My money is on a “surprise” candidate.

  153. What the heck is going on? Says:

    #124 Yes we know those polls are so clear! They never have a margin of error.

  154. Heath Says:

    No way the list is down to 4 with over 2 months to go.

  155. Illinoisguy Says:

    Personally, I’ll be very surprised if we don’t know well before two months.

  156. race42008.com » Blog Archive » If Obama Picks Zinni, McCain Needs Ridge Says:

    [...] Mike Allen’s intel is good regarding the respective searches for running mates being carried out by Obama and McCain [...]

  157. Mark Says:

    148. “McCain saying good stuff now about Romney means, confirms to me at least, it’s NOT gonna be Romney as VP.”

    Dude, I’ve said some pretty dumb stuff in my day, but this takes the cake.

  158. Ted Says:

    RE # 144,Rush Limbaugh just advised McCain to do the same thing that I advised in #144 — and he did it without having to mention Palin’s name — but there’s no doubt what he’s saying. HE STRESSED THAT IF MCCAIN DOES THAT NOW, MCCAIN WILL TAKE COMMAND AND WIN THE ELECTION!

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