I posted this in another thread, but I think Guinn can beat him in 2010 in NV. He was viewed as much more of a moderate before he became Senate Majority leader.
He could have made an argument that it’s voluntary, because it’s through our elected representatives, but the argument that he went on to make was just like — what the hell? What is the matter with him?
I don’t know if Reid realizes this, but the “tax protester” wackos are going to use this interview with Reid as evidence that they don’t have to pay taxes. They are always looking for quotes to try to establish that taxation is voluntary. Reid would have been much better off admitting that taxation is mandatory at the start.
July 26th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I posted this in another thread, but I think Guinn can beat him in 2010 in NV. He was viewed as much more of a moderate before he became Senate Majority leader.
July 26th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
He could have made an argument that it’s voluntary, because it’s through our elected representatives, but the argument that he went on to make was just like — what the hell? What is the matter with him?
July 26th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Guinn is pretty damn old, will be 74 in 2010.
July 26th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
How clueless can he get. How the voters of NV keep giving him a pass is beyond me.
July 26th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Taxation without representation. I thought that is what this Senator was getting at.
July 26th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
If Reid views the term “voluntary” in this way, than it makes me wonder what sorts of bills an all-Democrat government would pass.
July 26th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
voluntary - national sales tax
voluntary - national health care
voluntary - path to citizenship
July 26th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
I have to say, as a libertarian who spent many years arguing with conservatives, I heard his line of argument from conservatives routinely.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
#8, Metro I’m very happy to see your choice of words.
Libertarians are not conservative.
Conservatives are not libertarian.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
“I have to say, as a libertarian who spent many years arguing with conservatives, I heard his line of argument from conservatives routinely.”
…about time someone separated the two ideologies.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Even on economics, conservatives differ with libertarians.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
I’ve never claimed to be a conservative. An economic conservative, yes. A national security conservative, yes. A Republican, yes.
I also avoid the term libertarian since most of them are doves, emphasize all the wrong things, and are kooky.
I sometimes use the term libertarian hawk. Or libertarian Republican. Or libertarian conservative. Or South Park Republican.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
I go for the term ‘neo-libertarian’, myself.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
You guys are not libertarians. You both have a bit of a populist feel to you.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Oh. My. Lord…
I know 12 year-olds with more knowledge and wisdom than this ass clown.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Billions of people make Bush look like genius. Bush’s name and Reid’s name and a discussion of genius? non sequitur
We’ll give you the benefit of the doubt this time and assume you had a brain fart.
July 26th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
logcabingop, huh? Populism is diametrically opposed to my and Alex’s political philosophy.
July 26th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Alex, I’m not sure neo-libertarian means anything to anybody. If it doesn’t to me, and I’m in that tiny group, I can’t imagine it would to others.
July 26th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I figure this is an appropriate place to dump another one of Harry Reid’s greatest (s)hits.
July 26th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
And, who could forget this turd?
July 26th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Alex, I’m not sure neo-libertarian means anything to anybody. If it doesn’t to me, and I’m in that tiny group, I can’t imagine it would to others.
But…that’s what makes it so distinctive!
I just hijacked the ‘neo’ from neo-conservative and tacked it onto ‘libertarian’.
Voila!
July 26th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
You guys are not libertarians. You both have a bit of a populist feel to you.
What on Earth?
July 26th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Metro and Alexander have foreign policy views that are not libertarian.
July 26th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
That video made my brain hurt. What pathetic semantic wrangling on Reid’s part.
July 26th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
logcabingop, that’s exactly what we’ve been saying in this thread. And that has nothing to do with populism.
July 26th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Metro, you did?
July 26th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Yes, in #12 and #21 Alex and I said we were hawks and/or neoconservatives and/or national security conservatives.
And you already knew that.
Populism is economic liberalism + social conservatism, neither of which we have any part of.
July 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Wow, that is all I can say.
July 27th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
What a buffoon.
July 27th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Democrats don’t seem to mind that Harry Reid is a Mormon, yet Romney’s Mormonism is beat to death. What’s up with that?
July 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
I don’t know if Reid realizes this, but the “tax protester” wackos are going to use this interview with Reid as evidence that they don’t have to pay taxes. They are always looking for quotes to try to establish that taxation is voluntary. Reid would have been much better off admitting that taxation is mandatory at the start.