August 27, 2008
Drudge Reporting McCain VP Chosen
Any wagers?
Despite my last post, I am predicting Romney, and good Rombot would. 
http://race42008.com/2008/08/27/drudge-reporting-mccain-vp-chosen/trackback/
Any wagers?
Despite my last post, I am predicting Romney, and good Rombot would.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Lynne Cheney… just for sheer shock factor
August 27th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
According to a poster at Hedgehog report, CNBC is saying it’s not Romney.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
It isn’t Romney. I have tried to prepare my Romney supporting friends the best I could. But in reading the comments, it seems it has been to no avail.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Probably Pawlenty.
KBH would be a smarter pick though.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
John Kerry is such a doofus… I can’t wait until Biden talks tonight… great entertainment… Do these guys actually believe half the stuff they say?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
This from politico on the subject.
the person wont even know until friday so that means no noon announcement in Ohio, or this aide is simply lying.
Senator McCain has chosen his running mate and the person will be notified on Friday, a senior campaign official said.
A friend said McCain had pretty much settled on his selection early this week, and it crystallized in the past few days. Campaign manager Rick Davis flew to McCain’s cabin in Sedona, Ariz., a few days ago to confer, and another meeting about the choice was held with top aides Friday.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Guess 1: Pawlenty
Guess 2: Huckabee
August 27th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
To keep up with my fellow Rombots, I’ll 2nd the Romney VP nomination.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
KBH. They get the benefits of a strong woman and solved the inexperience question of Palin.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Ron Paul or Jeb Bush… not sure
August 27th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I think he goes with Lieberman. That’s just McCain.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Going out on a limb here and predicting Giuliani.
* McCain told Biden that he’s about to send him a debating partner. Rudy fits that description.
* Giuliani has eight letters.
* Rudy predicted that McCain’s running mate would be someone who had criticized McCain in the past on a couple of issues, one being taxes. That was one of Rudy’s few lines of attack against McCain during the primaries.
* Rudy neutralizes Biden in Pennsylvania.
* Rudy has a surname that gets the attention of white ethnics.
* Rudy would be a great attack dog.
* Rudy’s stance on judges probably prevents his abortion stance from hurting the ticket among Republicans.
If I’m wrong, no one will remember. But if I’m right…
August 27th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
My guess: T-Paw.
The wild card: Petraeus
August 27th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
This being documented, and I will heavily penalize all who are wrong. So bet wisely.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
DaveG- I’d love it to be Rudy, but what’s the significance of 8 letters?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
#6: he/she will find out on Thurday-
….Sen. McCain has chosen his running mate and the person will be notified on Thursday, a senior campaign official said….
August 27th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
I think there’s a 60% chance it’s Pawlenty.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
#16: Hewitt’s blog is reporting that the RNC is being set up and one of the banners says “McCain/XXXXXXXX,” the veep’s name having eight letters.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
DaveG, I’ve been seeing tea leaves for Rudy, too. As I said earlier, I think he’s on the very shortlist and people aren’t noticing.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
#16 kind of puzzled by the 8 letters too.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
signs point to KBH
1: float pro-choice lieberman and ridge, making KBH look more conservative
2: run hillary ads that simmer the feud between hillary supporters and obama-cult
3: follow obama’s ego-driven temple speech with a historic veep selection
drudge headline tomorrow or friday: MADAME VICE PRESIDENT
KBH will be flanked by whitman and fiorna as she tours county after county in ohio/PA won by hillary.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
#18, Pawlenty’s name has eight letters.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
18: Pawlenty is 8 letters too…
August 27th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
I think it will be Pawlenty- could be worse but could be better. At this point I think the best idea is Sarah Palin. I’d love Mitt as well, but I acknowledge the issues with such a ticket.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
19: Hey, from the day he dropped out and gave that glowing speech and they went on Leno together looking like a tag team, I thought it would be either Rudy or Pawlenty (the conventional choice), looks like it might come full circle!
August 27th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
18. PErhaps, but what is the point of that, when Guiliani is the only one with 8 letters, and would b figured out in like 5 sec by everyone. You mine as well just tell everyone right now.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
DaveG & Metro:
You guys can smoke your tea-leaves. It is not going to be Giuliani. This 8-letter thing is one huge stretch.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Or, maybe it was a mock of a design for a sign and the eight X’s mean nothing?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Powell!!, it take up eight spaces
August 27th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
USNews reporting Romney is out. But its rumorville.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/8/27/sources-romney-is-out.html
August 27th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Bonham, Pawlenty and Huckabee both have 8 letters, too
August 27th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Rudy, Lieberman, or Pawlenty, with Powell and Petraeus (also eight letters) as longshots.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Romney has plummeted at Intrade to 30%, and Hutchison has jumped 20 points. Wait, I just checked again get the exact number, and Romney is back up, to 49%.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
8:
huckabee
petraeus
giuliani
August 27th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
28. OR McCain is just saying he likes really dirty movies.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
I can’t be the only one right now counting the letters in all the VP possibilities’ names!
August 27th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Eight letters:
Giuliani
Pawlenty
Petraeus
Huckabee
Fiorina
August 27th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Gery - you make too much sense… you need to step over to the dark side and see the meaning in everything, including a banner comp for the convention which includes 8 x’s…
August 27th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Wow, Fiorina totally does not have eight letters.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Can I have a link to the Hugh Hewitt report? I can’t find it.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Anyone else watching Dukakis on Hannity & Colmes? It is flat-out unbelievable that Obama’s supporters still can’t come up with anything when prompted to list a single achievement from Obama’s career. Dukakis rambled on and on, saying Obama had “integrity” and he’d been a “great state senator,” but he had absolutely nothing when Hannity kept pressing him to list a specific achievement.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
To think Romney was ever a real contender for VP is to not understand John McCain.
I don’t like John McCain, but I understand him.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
33. I think 5 people could dump their trades their and change it.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
My last nae has 8 letters, and I’m a woman - maybe it’s me!
August 27th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
JOHN COX! THE SPACE COUNTS FOR ONE OF THE X’S!
August 27th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
35: Give it up. Romney and Huckabee are unacceptable to many conservatives too. Grow up and get over the primaries. The people who can actually vote are ready to support our ticket, no matter who it is.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
42. You do have the inside scoop I’d say. I should totally trust your sources over all the professional media who talk with these guys and travel with them day in and day out.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
46: Ok, ACT’s post disappeared, disregard.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
McCain/Palin XXX
We win 100% of the heterosexual male vote.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
#48,
I think the spam filter is going nuts.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
If Romney’s out, I’m not voting McCain. Would be a shame, I could have made a big difference here in MI.
I’m still guessing wisdom triumphs with Sen McCain. My guess is still Romney.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
To think Romney was ever a real contender for VP is to not understand John McCain. I don’t like John McCain, but I understand him.
Word.
It isn’t Romney. It was never going to be Romney.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
I believe its still Mitt. Upon further reflection, I don’t think Mac could be this stupid. I really don’t
And yes, Teddy Roosevelt was great, so my 100 years stopped short of that.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
http://townhall.com/blog/g/f31be67b-9a57-4c2d-a42e-f3f6b52cde57
August 27th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Pawlenty. Everyone said it will be Pawlenty on day one and here we are. It will be Pawlenty. McCain will not be bold here. He will play it safe.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
I guess it was a Townhall post, not a Hewitt one. My bad.
http://townhall.com/blog/g/f31be67b-9a57-4c2d-a42e-f3f6b52cde57
August 27th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
#55: Perhaps. But John McCain has never played it safe. That’s not John McCain. He likes to shock people.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
If Mitt is not the VP, we’ll go 10-12 down in the polls… Just watch. And short of Obama totally imploding, we won’t get it back.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
#58 Illinoisguy,
OH COME ON. I might believe such a thing would happen if it turned out the VP is Mitt.
Do you really think McCain would tank in the polls if he picked Powell or Hutchison?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
politico:Dems fear Invesco effect
ha ha ha
August 27th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
#58: Utter B.S.
Delusional.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Um Yeah…. 10%-12% of McCain 47% are Romney supporters.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
I swear, these Rombots are like the invasion of the body snatchers. Most annoying thing I’ve ever encountered in politics.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
AFter being passes on intrade by KBH, he is now over double her and Tim, like 49 to 22 for the others. something flipped this back.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
based on a reread of politico story I would say it has to be pawlenty over KBH.
key read for me is that “it was decided on early in the week and crystallized over the last few days.”
that could also imply a Romney selection but that seems unlikely which is too bad cause the west is won with Romney
August 27th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
#63 Metro,
Wow. Even more annoying than the “Paultards” like myself?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
#63 - well, Metro, you’re young yet. You’ll see much more annoying things.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Illinoisguy why are you so fixated on Romney?
Do you really believe there’s no good VP pick besides Mitt?
You think there’s really 10-12% of voters who will only vote for McCain/Romney?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
67 - Metro is almost 40. I’m the young one.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
How many kids do you have Metro?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/us/politics/28repubs.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
hmm…
August 27th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Oops!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Too many downsides to Mitt…I know there are a lot of his fans here…for religious affiliation or because he’s dreamy but the fact of the matter is he has too much baggage that does not fit with the current climate of the campaign.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
You can count on Huckabee’s camp to stir things up… Thanks Ed… lol
August 27th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Hutchison has just went down somewhat on Intrade. Why isn’t Pawlenty moving. He doesn’t get any respect!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
58, Obama didn’t tank when Hillary wasn’t picked. Are you saying Romney supporters are bigger babies than Hillary supporters - and they’d have to be a lot so to, because there’s less of them.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Cystalized over the past few days pretty much guarantees Romney is out. I mean what have been the major narratives of the past few days? McCain criticizing Biden for the things he’s said about Obama, McCain taking heat for being rich and out of touch with working Americans and women being angry about Hillary. Romney is awful on all fronts.
I think it could mean…
Pawlenty: We need someone of humble roots to counter the rich elitist message and speak to the working class.
KBH: We need a strong, experienced woman to expand our voting base.
or maybe
Rudy: We need a rockstar to counter Obama and turn Biden into whimpering jello.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Rudy predicted that McCain’s running mate would be someone who had criticized McCain in the past on a couple of issues, one being taxes.
Dave,
The other being immigration.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
All depends on whether-issues, winning states, Hillary voters or statesmanship, is the key driver in final decision. In that order, his choices would be T Paw(share philosophy), Romney(Mich, Colorado and NV, Rudy(Hutchison 2nd) or Powell. It’s going to be a wild day on Thursday when it officially leaks about 5 minutes before Obama’s speech.
Final guess is-McCain/Rudy
August 27th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
….Republicans close to the campaign said that the top contenders remained the same three men who have been the source of speculation for weeks….
So only those closed know it, they refuse to talk about it but other Republicans close to the campaign know who is on the list? Sounds like BS.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Who knows what this means. It looks like Romney out.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Yep…This is the money quote:
A friend said McCain had pretty much settled on his selection early this week, and it crystallized in the past few days.
I have no idea who mccain is gonna pick but romney sure has been on fire the last couple days doing the network rounds + really john mccain isn’t stupid…call me stupid but i think picking pawlenty is not wise…now if mccain is gonna pick a women, that also could have crystallized in the last few days too, so who knows.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Prepare yourself everyone…all of the signs point to Rudy!!! Didn’t I read somewhere that it was these past few days that helped make his decision? Rudy has done pretty well responding to the Dems and is getting good responses from attendees at the convention.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Can we be documented as saying who it’s not going to be?
KBH, Romney, Powell, Patraeus, TPaw.
I’m picking Lieberman, Ridge, or Guiliani. In that order. A shame that Sanford isn’t up there though.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Howard Dean is a dolt! It’s amazing that the best line they can come up with, about McCain, is 4 more years of George Bush.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Now, I could see Lieberman causing a 10 point drop.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
blue, #81, a quote from “a friend” doesn’t quite cut it. Mind you, it no worse than some of the rubbish we get cited as sources.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
#84, its a fairly simple line, tying a nominee to an unpopular president. What’s so pathetic about that?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Townhall’s Matt Lewis wrote:
My guess is Lewis’s source is James Carville.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Rudy has his own housing problem too…
if we’re using this little housing scuttle-but of the last few days weight that heavily on the decision. I don’t think that it will in the least when it is all said and done. This is the day to day back and forth, and not the overall themes and strategies of the campaigns. To make a pick based on the ebb and flow of a few given days in the campaign would be wreckless and irresponsible.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
I have absolutely no doubt that the RNC is going to be such a vastly superior presentation than the DNC. It’s about framing your candidate, and the DNC has done an awful job besides “he’s a great dad and we don’t want 4 more years!” By the time we’re done with our message, we’re going to turn out candidate into something like the second coming of George Patton.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
jaype if its one of those 3 we lose before we start. no way you motivate a conservative base with that lineup. no way no how
August 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I honestly believe we lose with anyone else, except perhaps Powell. Unless Obama implodes as I said before, which he may.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
intrade has stabilized
romney at 52
tpaw at 26
kbh back down to 16
no one else on the move
August 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
anyone watching cnn? they’re running with this story…
August 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Rudy has two homes, on on Park Avenue and one in the Hamptons. However, they are most likely worth as much as McCain’s 7 homes.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I agree with IllinoisGuy… there’s a lot of conservatives, myself and my friends & family included across 7 states, who are looking to Sen McCain to pick up Romney. And these aren’t just people who supported Romney in the primaries… they’re Fred-heads, Tancredo types, Mitt heads, even some Giuliani gurus. Fact is Mitt has been the most visible and fired up surrogate McCain has and he’s been doing a bang up job, so its not hard to see why so many republicans are looking for McCain to bring Romney aboard.
I don’t think it would be as severe as 12% decline, but I think it will be just enough to lose the critical base support that Sen McCain needs.
At the pesonal level, I’m going ballistic for McCain here in Michigan if Mitt is picked, but if you ask me why I’m so fixated that I’m willing to not cast a vote for McCain without Mitt as VP, let me tell you this: Because Thompson, Hunter, and Romney… my top 3 choices for president, lost in the GOP primary, so I am one ticked off conservative. A Romney pick brings me back and fires me up… a symbol to me that a McCain administration and the new GOP are not leaving conservatism behind. That’s why.
And with the economy the way it is, not picking Romney is like insult to injury.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Lieberman would cause more than a 10 point drop.. he is the magical support vaporizer
August 27th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
92: Maybe Romney should be the one speaking in front of the Greek Temple…
August 27th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
CNN reporting Meg Whitman is a dark horse.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
#87 I didn’t say it was pathetic, I don’t even think it’s bad but when that’s all you got. Interview after interview that’s all they say…if that’s all they have…
August 27th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
98: That would be a real WTF for me. I can’t see him going with someone who has not held elected office unless its a General like Powell or Petreus.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
98, haha romney wasnt listed among meg whitman.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Romney would be the John Kerry of the GOP…
August 27th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Romney
August 27th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Remember McCain has long said his pick will be qualified to be President and Commander in chief. Is Meg Whitman really?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Rudy was running his girlfriend around the city to his house… sure, different that McCain and Romney and Obama’s housing problems, but a problem with the conservative base nonetheless, wouldn’t you agree?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
I hope all the networks pick this up soon. CNN has it as I speak..
August 27th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
102 / Romney has had only 1 wife and didn’t attain his wealth by marrying her.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
103: Romney crystallized in the last few days? The events of the last week caused McCain to say I need the most generic rich white man who made a fortune as a venture capitalist laying people off and spent the entire primary season building up dozens of campaign ads criticizing the GOP candidate? Really?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
It’s not Romney…and Rudy has already been vetted by the MSM who feared he’d be the President.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
anyone want to drill Pelosi’s brains?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
USNews is also reporting Whitman as a possibility.
I am going to holf my breath on what is happening with Mitt & Intrade right now.
Take a look for yourself and you can figure it out.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
My guess, Sarah Palin or John Kasich.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
105- the conservative base is not who we’re worried about right now. Besides, Rudy is beloved by the vast majority of the base. He’s a reformer, a crime fighter, a tax cutter, an advocate of conservative judges and a true national security hero.
Yes, we all know Rudy had some tough personal problems, but they happened on the eve of 9/11 which wiped away that image of him and made him reborn as a public figure. Rudy is beloved by most of the American population.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
JerryO #107,
Romney is an unlikeable, elitist prick who will shamelessly flip-flop on any issue to get elected.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
#66
I think the Rombots are more annoying than the Paultards. At least Ron Paul has a distinctive ideology (among the Republican primary candidates, anyway) that like-minded people can be drawn to. Romney made himself into a “generic Republican” for the primaries, so there are plenty of other possible candidates with positions pretty much indistinguishable from his - but many Rombots continue to take the “pick Romney or lose my support” position.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
At this point, there is no perfect choice and few good choices. All the candidates have various positives and negatives. Most have lots of negatives. That’s why I think it might be Rudy. He has a couple of positives that are really important to McCain, and his negatives are largely past their freshness date. McCain needs someone who speaks “street” and who has white ethnic roots, but even Pawlenty’s most ardent supporters admit he’ll lose the veep debate to Biden. McCain also needs someone who would be a good attack dog and good communicator, but Romney’s problems have been discussed here innumerable times. Rudy has all of those traits, and his negatives consist of ancient personal scandals that no one cares about anymore. If McCain’s polling showed that the Right didn’t object to Rudy on abortion because of his views on judges, that might be enough for McCain to select Rudy out of a field of highly imperfect options.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Hackman_Franklin
Former cabinet member, for the “good” Bush. Served 5 Presidents. Economic credentials. Ovaries. 8 letters.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Glenn Beck predicted Romney tonight, only based on intrade. ha!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
I don’t think its Kasich
Someone would literally have to watch every second of his every appearance on Fox News to make sure he never said anything that can be used against the ticket.
They don’t have the time of resources for that.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Well said sjm.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
what I have noticed everyone seem to be positive it’s not the guy they hate.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Decide for yourself, but US News is reporting Romney is out.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/8/27/sources-romney-is-out.html
August 27th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
116- Dave, after jumping around and testing out the waters how does it feel to come full circle come back home again?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
remember that foxnews poll that said biden would boost obama the most? haha that same poll said romney would boost mccain the most.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
I won’t buy any media reports… We can’t figure this out. We COULD figure the Dem one out lol!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Palin
August 27th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Rudy performed extremely well with women during the primary season’s polling.
He’d lock up Florida and help us in Pennsylvania, and perhaps put New Jersey into play.
Moreover, Giuliani expressed his support for McCain early on (”if I weren’t running, I’d be supporting McCain”), McCain thinks he’s ready to be Commander-in-Chief, and he likes him a lot.
He’s a center-right guy, and that’s the kind of legacy McCain wants to leave.
Rudy’s a solid debating partner for Biden, and to give Rudy a chance to be let at Biden, who made that cheap shot at Rudy, would be wonderful.
He can’t leave a legacy as a maverick if he goes with Romney. He can with Rudy.
It really just might be Rudy.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
NY Times is reporting Romney, Pawlenty, and Lieberman are the finalists…
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/us/politics/28repubs.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
August 27th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
#123: Far better than it feels when I visit my native Michigan during the holidays. That place is cold!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
what I have noticed everyone seem to be positive it’s not the guy they hate.
Pawlenty is someone that I really, really hope it’s not, but I acknowledge that it could be him.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Nyt is reporting Romney is in.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
It’ll be Pawlenty. Hutchison is a possibility as well.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
#119, that is an odd argument? Would that be any less effort than Biden’s career?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
No matter what, Rombots are beyond a better persom than a obambot ir whatever they are called.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
I am only vaguely familiar with Barbara Franklin. Her resume is pretty darn impressive:
August 27th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Alex #127,
Just like Rudy locked up Florida during the primaries? :p
August 27th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
It’s vitally important that McCain picks someone that doesn’t undercut his experience theme. He can’t credibly say that it vitally important to have a President with much greater experience than Obama if he puts someone who isn’t a 72 year old’s heartbeat away from the presidency, so he needs to pick someone greatly more experienced than Obama. I think may take away the option of Sarah Palin, and Bobby Jindal ( haven’t heard of him lately), it should certainly take Meg Whitman, and Carly Fiorina out of consideration, as they could be seen as less experienced than Obama.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
128: Well its good to have you back in the fold. Hopefully our faith in the best candidate will be rewarded. Ruuuuudy! Ruuuudy! Ruuuudy!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
rudy is a pro life adulterer. how well is that going to motivate your religious base?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
We all know they’re going for a surprise that will give Biden someone to debate with. We know they’re courting the female vote. We know they’re looking for someone who can compete in certain states and force Obama to spend money where he otherwise wouldn’t have to. RUDY!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I think it is Huckabee.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
by the way my question at #138 is serious. I like Rudy alot but …
August 27th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Rudy would be a horrible pick. It won’t be Rudy.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
I think it is Ron Paul.
:B
August 27th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
alex,
Have you spent the last year arguing with pawlenty-bots?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Rudy was a WEAK candidate, what makes you think he will be a better veep?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
good gosh. the joe biden-bo biden kiss was even more uncomfortable than the al gore -tipper gore kiss.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
corep, a whole lot of the base really likes Rudy. Especially when he’s in attack dog mode.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
One good thing is…it’s not Romney.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
135 - He stopped being viable. He’s still beloved. No, he didn’t win it, but he wasn’t seen as viable — he’s certainly not a demi-god.
144 - No. What’s your point?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
#145
Rudy was a weak candidate for the Republican primary process. That does not mean that he is a weak candidate for the general election.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
wow! i thought bo biden gave a terrible speech. he was jack kennedy compared to his old man.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Rudy was a WEAK candidate, what makes you think he will be a better veep?
He’s in his element when he’s going after the Dems and defending positions he supports. He was uncomfortable and out of his element during the primary season, trying to stake out a niche among other Republicans, caught in between trying to appeal to McCain and Romney people.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
I love rudy, but was unimpressed by him at the debates. I think he lost nearly everyone.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Barbara Hackman Franklin sounds very interesting. And she is from a key swing state too.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
151 - Why on Earth are you calling her ‘Bo’? Because it rhymes with ‘Joe’? Her name is Jill.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Rudy was the only Republican mentioned by the Democratic candidates in the earlier stages of the Democratic primary.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Rudy would cause the pro-life base of the party to be depressed. He would be a drag on the ticket. The votes lost by pro-lifers staying home would be more than the votes gained by moderates voting for McCain. It’s not Rudy. That’s a pipe dream.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Good Lord. How many more times is it going to be mentioned that Joe Biden stuttered as a child?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
my bad his name is Beau. Are the biden’s like french or something?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Also remember this, if Rudy didn’t get out of the election when he did…before Super Tuesday…Romney would probably be the nominee right now. I was scratching my head wondering why he got out…chances were he was going to win a few of the Super Tuesday states…was a deal already made way back in January?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
#157: There were numerous polls last fall, after the GOP race was dominated by discussion of Rudy being pro-choice, that 80-90% of conservatives were OK with him being at the TOP of the ticket.
The bottom of it, even more.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
#160: I think there MIGHT have been a deal between Rudy and McCain a year and a half ago that one would win the nomination and would select the other as his running mate. They certainly ran their campaigns as if that were the case.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Alex #127,
Its funny you mention Florida as the latest Mason-Dixon from today(posted here) specifically makes the claim that Romney is the best pick for Florida as he helps across the board better than the other contenders. He even helps among indies better than Lieberman. Of course if dave claims he hurts among indies enough it may become true someday.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Pro-lifers would have to be the dumbest sons of $%&%$#@ if they sat out, over one issue, and let the socialist Obama run this country…too much is at stake this election.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
155- Biden’s son is Beau Biden, DE’s attorney general. He introduced his dad. Maybe its because I lived in DE and I “get” Joe Biden, I think he’s doing a fantastic job with his speech. He’s connecting with people like he should.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
McCain is solid as a foreign policy conservative. He is questionable as an economic and social conservative. He needs a VP nominee that shores up the economic and social conservative wings of the party.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Its funny you mention Florida as the latest Mason-Dixon from today(posted here) specifically makes the claim that Romney is the best pick for Florida as he helps across the board better than the other contenders. He even helps among indies better than Lieberman. Of course if dave claims he hurts among indies enough it may become true someday.
You cannot rely on the more likely/less likely crap. There were no actual numbers for Crist or Romney in that poll, nor were several options even in the poll.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Pro-lifers aren’t going to let Obama replace the elderly Justices when McCain could instead.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
As long as McCain’s candidate has an (R) next to their name, the vast majority of republicans will be on board… no question about it.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
#165: I agree. Biden is speaking the language of the Rust Belt tonight.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
#162, That’s quite possibe, it certainly would explain Giuliani’s strange campaign decisions.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Interestingly, what a Rudy pick does is allow McCain to PROVE his pro-life credentials.
While simultaneously showing independents he won’t kow-tow to the Republican base.
While reassuring the base.
Pretty nifty.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
155 - Oh. I don’t have a TV in my dorm room, so I assumed he was referring to the wife, since he said ‘Bo’.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Jersey #164,
Yeah. Too much is at stake in this election. If we sit this out, an interventionist big-government socialist instead of a war-mongering big-government supporter of socialism for the rich.
Big differences there.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Wow. Joe Biden just did a wonderful job of exaggerating Barack Obama’s time in the U.S. senate. Did you know that Obama led the fight for ethics reform?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
hillary last night > biden tonight
d’oh
August 27th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
160- I think there’s a distinct possibility. They barely said anything critical of each other, and Rudy seemed to hold back in NH and got out awfully quickly after FL because he knew pressing on would split he and Mccain’s base and swing the election to Romney. He basically endorsed McCain while STILL IN the primary which is unheard of, and in his acceptance of Rudy’s endorsement, McCain gave a glowing, thankful speech literally calling Rudy one of his American Heroes. Then they went on the Tonight Show together and seemed like an old duo (I believe they were compared to Walter Matheau and Jack Lemmon). He passes the Commander in Chief test, he shares McCain’s values and John values loyalty. Again, I think there’s a possibility a deal was worked out a long time ago.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Socialism for the rich????
August 27th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
I feel bad making fun of Beau Biden since he’s deploying to Iraq and is thus a hero but he failed the bar I believe 4 times before passing, which is unheard of. He’s the Attorney General, folks.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
161, Rassmussen ran a poll where 27% of Republicans stated they would not vote for McCain. Now, I think that number would have gone downn had he got the nomination, and would be even smaller with him as VP. However a percent could swing this election.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
After giving thought to everything that has been said here tonight, because we all have such great sources and insight and experience and reasoning ability, I have come to the conclusion that it is —- Romney.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Josiah…
…Well, some of us actually recognize the threat from Iran, don’t want the Bush tax cuts repealed, and happen to think that justices like Scalia are superior to justices like Stevens.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
When does Rudy leave Denver…does anyone know?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
The Republican convention is going to be so negative!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
#180 Dude, McCain’s slogan is, “Country First.” Not going to be Romney.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Biden just inferred that the US has the right to take Iraqi oil profits to pay for the war effort. Wow…
something like “McCain wants to keep spending $10 billion a month in Iraq… while Iraq has $80 billion excess profits… that’s not change… that’s more of the same”
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Jersey #177,
Yes. Socialism for the rich.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Josiah…
-shakes head-
August 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Both Biden and Bill Clinton tonight have done a good job of tapping into the anger of Americans at GWB and Republicans. But both have done a horrible job of explaining how Obama will do better, other than saying, “Obama will do better!” It says a lot that neither of these guys really has any substantive selling points for Barack Obama.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
What the crap is Joe Biden talking about with Russia? Barack Obama will hold Russia accountable? Ok…
August 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
181- I think after tonight. I believe Pawlenty is on counter-strike duty tomorrow.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Another problem with Rudy is that he would give the message of an unbalanced ticket. Obama clearly tried to balance his weakness on foreign policy with Biden. McCain needs to address his serious lack on economics.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
hey biden, quit ripping off of mccain from 10 years ago on georgia and russia!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jdyPSH027I
August 27th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
#180 Rick, you may very well be right…what the hell do we all know…it’s all conjecture. Do I think Romney is the smart choice…NO. But I’m not McCain.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
190 - No, McCain needs to make this election about foreign policy. The selection of Biden helps him do that.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
John Mark, Rudy turned around one of the biggest economies in the world.
Why does that even need to be said among Republicans?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
187- Bill was incredible. If there were no term limits he’d still be the president. I watched him speak and it really exposes what a complete amateur Obama is in terms of giving populist speeches. Bill is truly the most charismatic politician of our generation.
But yeah, in Biden’s case its because he knows Obama has no real accomplishments to tout, in Bill’s case its a little of that and a little of 2012.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
someone give biden a shovel. this guy is digging a huge one.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
You’re in the wrong party Josiah!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
194, during the late 90’s it wasn’t too hard to turn anything around.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
I’m the only one here who takes our party’s platform seriously, Jerseyrepublican!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Rudy and the economy? Has anyone been to Times Square recently?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
#190… Rudy sounded like Milton Friedman during the primaries. He’s very comfortable talking about economics and can point to his experience as mayor. I’m not sure if he’s the best choice out there, but I disagree that a McCain/Rudy ticket would be weak on economics.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
190- Obama has gotten a NEGATIVE bounce from his “balancing” ticket. It exposes his inexperience, leaves him open to ads from the primaries and undermines his main theme of change and outsiderness. The proper model was Clinton/Gore double up on your strength.
McCain/Rudy are similar but they’re both popular for their strengths and that will just enhance their strengths when joined together and make the ticket more popular.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Did he really try to compare Obama’s foreign policies credentials with McCain’s?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
198, What happened in NYC was far and beyond what happened throughout the rest of the country.
To repeat what Metro said: the fact that this even needs to be said among Republicans is astounding.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Just watched Biden’s speach. And someone suggested Pawlenty????????????????????????????????????????
You’ve got to be kidding!!!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
I got one How about Hilliary Rodham Clinton I could see it now in Dayton Ohio nobody has no idea who the pick is there is a stir because Chelsa Clinton is in attendance but alot of peaple overlooked it then Sen McCain comes oout on stage the croud roars in wondering who is it? The Sen.McCain give a short speech then he introduces his running mate without mentioning any names out come through the rear curtain shock and owh comes from the crowd it is Hilliary !!!
Then you here the crowd chant Hilliary! Hilliary! Hilliary!!
Then you dee Sen McCain and Sen. Clinton raise there hands to form the dream ticket!!
McCain/Clinton 08 Wouldn’t that be a shocker!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
it’s the 2nd coming!!! The ONE IS HERE!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
OMG OBAMA JUST PLANTED ONE ON BIDEN’S WIFE’S LIPS!!!!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
I’m shock they have not gone harder on Trade…
August 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
holy shiznit! obama’s showing up to the convention before he is nominated?!?!?!? does he really think it’s going THAT badly?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
You see Biden and Obama up there and you just think “this ticket is so backwards…”
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
205 - Yes, I can see it now: two days after calling for party unity, saying that she supports Obama, and saying that he be nominated by acclamation, she runs against him in the general election?
Riiiiiight.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
This is getting really silly. Obama looks like a goofy kid out there.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
look in the teleprompter Barry…
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
194, I think the perception is that he’s a Security Con and is about being tough on GWOT, now we need that but I don’t think Guiliani really adds to McCain’s perception on the economy. As much as we would like to make the election all about foreign policy - there’s no way we can do that. People are still going to care about their financial situation. The only thing that will make the debate all about foreign policy is an international crisis.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Vote for Pedro!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
I’m shocked they didn’t have clouds part and a spotlight shine down and a booming voice declare: “Here ye owe Democrats, behold your King!” before Obama descends from the ceiling in a bungee suit.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
This has become the unofficial Wednesday night DNC open thread, looks like.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
194, I think the perception is that he’s a Security Con and is about being tough on GWOT, now we need that but I don’t think Guiliani really adds to McCain’s perception on the economy. As much as we would like to make the election all about foreign policy - there’s no way we can do that. People are still going to care about their financial situation.
Why would they be more likely to trust Obama/Biden? It’s not like that ticket has economic credibility. At least Rudy can claim to have executive experience and is comfortable talking economics.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
it’s invesco at mile high doofus.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
I don’t know if Rudy’s the best choice (although I’d sure as hell vote for the ticket)… But watching a Biden/Giuliani VP debate would be a blast.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Guys, ill break the silence - it’s me.
McCAIN/PASSMORE - Unbeatable.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
this ending was as lame as the worst teeny bopper movie one could fathom.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
It should be Ridge. He can go toe for toe with Biden and can still come off very warm..
August 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
You could put Biden vs. Rudy in a ring and sell it on PPV for $39.99. Seriously, both campaigns could split the proceeds.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Obama just called Clinton “President Bush”!
Obama looks the most unpresidential out of all the speakers tonight.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
If this were Hillary/Biden instead of Obama/Biden, this election would be over.
I think the average person watching this convention is probably thinking, “I don’t want to vote for Bush again, but McCain isn’t Bush. And I want to vote for the Clintons again, but Obama isn’t the Clintons.” Absent some sort of show-stopper tomorrow, I think this convention will change very, very few minds.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
225: What!?!? I heard him say President Clinton, are you sure?