October 26, 2009

Breaking: Johnson Laying Groundwork for President Run

Gary Johnson is preparing to launch his Our America PAC shortly, as soon as he gets all of his legal ducks in a row. He will be hitting the trail hard soon, traveling the country to speak in support of issues and candidates, re-immersing himself in the public policy debate.

This December, Governor Johnson will also be releasing a book entitled “Seven Principles Of Good Government,” published by The Heartland Institute (a conservative-libertarian think tank).

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98 Responses to “Breaking: Johnson Laying Groundwork for President Run”

  1. Kevin Says:

    Johnson doesn’t stand a chance, yet I almost wish he did.

  2. MetroIndependent Says:

    WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Win M. Says:

    This is great news. I’m donating on the first day.

  4. Ci2Eye Says:

    Don’t know anything about him but given the colossial mess America is in right now, this resume’ of notable accomplishments taken from his site hardly sounds convincing that he’s to man to lead our rescue.

    Accomplishments:
    •He didn’t raise taxes as Governor once.
    •He vetoed over 1,000 spending items.
    •He cut taxes 14 times.
    •In a state dominated 2 to 1 by Democrats he served two terms.
    •He competed in the Bataan Death March, a 25 mile desert run in combat boots wearing a 35-pound backpack.
    •He participated in Hawaii’s invitation-only Ironman Triathalon Championship, several times.
    •He climbed to the top of Mount Everest, despite a broken leg

  5. Knickers in a twist. Says:

    Well, it beats the princess and preacher, that’s fer sure.

  6. Kevin Says:

    For FiCons, the guy is hard to beat.

  7. tajitj Says:

    Nice job of breaking that, he is not the usual politician. He is will definetly add something very worthy to the debate. We all know what Huck, Palin, and Romney think, a fresh voice with new positions is going to be welcomed.

    Although he probably will not get the attention of the other guys because of his lack of wanting to fight endless wars in the middle east, but you never know.

    Looks like someone already knew about his and has got a site up
    http://johnsonforamerica.com/

  8. MPC Says:

    I’d gladly back him. I just hopes he tries to stay a little more mainstream than Ron Paul in return.

  9. David Says:

    And all of America, in one collective breath, exclaims “Who is Gary Johnson?”

  10. Molly Says:

    Johnson does not excite me as much as another Ron Paul run.

    I feel lukewarm about Johnson. I’d definitely vote for him, but I prefer the flame throwing style of Ron Paul more.

    Of course there always the Libertarian and Constitution Party if the War party picks someone like McCain or Palin again.

  11. CraigS Says:

    And who is he? What state / country does he represent ?

  12. WSU Says:

    Governor, I believe, of NM…

    But Johnson is just another Pual-like lunatic who wants to pull America’s military back inside the lower 48 and cede the role of Global power to oppressive nations like China to remake the world in their own image.

    Yeah, I’ll pass.

  13. Kevin Says:

    ^ sigh.

  14. Molly Says:

    Exactly.

    The president should not get a standing army. State’s rights are an impossibility until we disarm him.

    Plus, what happens if another Bush wins and gets hold of the army. We’ll get a repeat.

  15. Bob Hovic Says:

    #14 encapsulates perfectly why this small-l libertarian long ago gave up on the Libertarian Party.

    Whatever happened to Goldwater Republicans? (sigh)

  16. WSU Says:

    You two don’t think we would leave a huge power vacume if we make a Johnsonist pullback into our own borders?

  17. MetroIndependent Says:

    If he’s an isolationist, he’s my choice for VP rather than POTUS. But it will be freakin’ awesome to have him in the race!

  18. Molly Says:

    The key is destroying the neoconservative movement that has infiltrated our government and wants control of army. Defunding overseas military bases is key to getting rid of these people.

  19. Dave Says:

    He was governor a long, long time ago. His time has come and gone.

  20. WSU Says:

    Right, so you guys let Beijing know that it can start planting its communist, authoritative, self-serving interests around the Globe, because the US, the force which stands for freedom, peace, Democracy, etc – we’re gonna pack up and leave the town to whichever bully wants it.

  21. Molly Says:

    Well Bush was a bigger national security threat than Bin Laden or the Chinese were in the last election cycle. But luckily he’ gone.

    Now we have to continue to build the libertarian movement to stop these people from gaining power again.

  22. WSU Says:

    so you have absolutely no desire to help life people out of tyranny, opression, hopelessness, dicatorship, etc?

    We tried isolationism, we tried letting other countries do the difficult work and hoping for the best. Guess what? Neither has EVER worked.

  23. Tommy Oliver Says:

    I’m of the same opinion as metro at the moment. I am enthusiastic to his running, but I really have not looked at anything beyond what is already known closely enough to get too excited yet…

  24. Martha Says:

    Drug legalization and isolationism? That’s too bad.

  25. Molly Says:

    Bush didn’t help anyone.
    Maybe 100K or a million dead. 3 million refugee fleeing the country plus dead americans.

    I don’t buy it. Remember Bush making jokes about how there weren’t any WMD…

  26. Molly Says:

    Plus all that depleted uranium. Most of the communities have been ethnically cleansed in Iraq too.

    I wonder if Bush will have the Patriot Act on display at his Freedom Institute.

  27. Molly Says:

    O ya…and the torture. 100 died in U.S. custody?

    One guy was waterboarded 180 times in one months, and none of these people get to see a court trial either when this should have been nothing more than a criminal matter.

  28. Martha Says:

    Dumped his wife in 2005 because he had a new relationship? Hmmm. She died a year later.

    Next.

  29. Martha Says:

    27. It’s unfotunate that some people don’t appreciate the cost of freedom, and Bush’s commitment to keep America safe.

    Waterboard the hell out of the terrorists, I really don’t care.

  30. Adam Says:

    Molly,

    Did you see what happened to Nick Berg?

    F*ck the enemy combatants. I wish more of them died in US custody. The Moslem extremists count on Pacifists like you.

  31. WSU Says:

    “Maybe 100K or a million dead. 3 million refugee fleeing the country plus dead americans.”

    Right, I forgot about those 50 million people all living in a Democratic system of government…

    “O ya…and the torture. 100 died in U.S. custody?”

    So we used harsh interrogation techniques on those NOT protected by US or international law, in order to learn intelligence to save lives.

    I’m sorry – but the US should be supporting freedom and democracy and should NOT be using liberal (in all senses of the word) interpretations of international “law” to prevent us from protecting out country and waging the war on terror.

  32. Molly Says:

    #29,

    Did you know that Bush abducted a U.S. citizen because he belonged to the Al Qaeda and denied him habeas corpus? He hadn’t actually committed any crime, and we have freedom of association and speech in this country.

    The ACLU had to fight for him and after 3 years in one of Bush’s camps, the courts dropped all charges. Most of those people Bush had in GITMO probably have zero evidence too.

    The key is ending this madness and getting it back to a criminal matter and nothing more.

  33. Molly Says:

    “Did you see what happened to Nick Berg?”

    Berg was killed by the ISI. We support their government.

  34. WSU Says:

    WE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO ASSOCAITE IN GROUPS THAT MURDER, TERRORIZE, and BOMB US CITIZENS?

    Excuse me, but what the f*** are you smoking?

  35. Molly Says:

    O and btw- Iraq had nothing at all to do with 9/11 period.

    The plan to invade was in place well before 9/11 attacked. Cheney and crew were opportunists.

  36. Adam Says:

    Did you know that Bush abducted a U.S. citizen because he belonged to the Al Qaeda and denied him habeas corpus? He hadn’t actually committed any crime, and we have freedom of association and speech in this country.

    If that’s true then I APPLAUD it. The organization responsible for 3000 American deaths. Belonging to Al Qaeda is in itself a crime. That any court wasn’t able to prove wrongdoing to the same standard needed for American citizens only speaks to the fairness and decency of our society. Try wearing a skirt over in Iraq and see what happens to you.

    The key is ending this madness and getting it back to a criminal matter and nothing more.

    Yes. Because that worked so well in the 1990’s.

  37. Molly Says:

    WSU,

    Well we have freedom to join any group we like. Those on the left want to go after right wing militas, the KKK, maybe the mafia etc, the weather underground, etc etc. I am willing to bet if you ask Al Sharpton, he will tell you these racist groups are and should be considered terrorists groups that we need to jail their membership

    It’s just a group. You can’t prosecute speech or belonging to a group.

  38. Molly Says:

    “If that’s true then I APPLAUD it. The organization responsible for 3000 American deaths. Belonging to Al Qaeda is in itself a crime. That any court wasn’t able to prove wrongdoing to the same standard needed for American citizens only speaks to the fairness and decency of our society. Try wearing a skirt over in Iraq and see what happens to you.”

    Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Association are far more important than Bush’s crappy agenda or his bogus wars.

  39. WSU Says:

    “The plan to invade was in place well before 9/11 attacked. Cheney and crew were opportunists.”

    You know what? I really don’t care – because even if Iraq was not involved with 9/11, the only reason we even had to go into Iraq was because George H.W. Bush didn’t have the balls to remove him in 1991.

    Saddam Hussein:

    1) Attacked a US ally (Israel)
    2) Invaded a peaceful country (Kuwait)
    3) Threatened global economic stability (oil in Saudi arabia and the Arabian gulf)
    4) Saught, possessed, and used weapons of Mass Destruction against his own people and against others
    5) attempted to assassinate a US President
    6) Ruled with an Iron fist which kept millions enslaved to his regeime
    7) Repeatedly bried individuals trying to control the oil for food program

    Now you tell me which of those things DOES NOT count as a valid reason to invade. The attempted assassination and attacks on Israel alone should have been enough to have him shot dead in his palace.

  40. Molly Says:

    “4) Saught, possessed, and used weapons of Mass Destruction against his own people and against others”

    Reagan and H.W. gave Saddam WMD. He was probably useing Reagan’s weapons.

    I didn’t even know Saddam attacked Israel although I don’t think we’re responsible for their defense. In fact, I think the states should in charge of national defense no the president.

  41. WSU Says:

    “Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Association are far more important…”

    You do not have the right to associate with, support, engage in, or assist in any terrorist or treasonous activity. All of those things bar anyone from legally participating with Al-Qaeda.

    Threatening acts of violence is a CRIME – and every single member of Al-Qaeda, by his alliegence to UBL, threatened an act of violence.

  42. anonymous Says:

    Who is Gary Johnson? I think we are going have a problem who might run for President in 2012. If we have about 10 Republicans are running-it is going to cost them to lose 2012 election. It it just too many of them are running for President all at one time. I hope Sarah Palin will run in 2012. She is a true conservative. Romney, Huckabee, Gingrich, and Pawlenty won’t get the nominee in 2012. They are not conservative. They are Rino’s. They are hurting the Republican Party.

  43. Adam Says:

    Molly,

    How would you feel if people wanted to associate to (hypothetically speaking)…i dunno… kill Obama? Would you be as willing to defend their “freedom of association”?

  44. WSU Says:

    “I didn’t even know Saddam attacked Israel ”

    Gulf War I.

    “although I don’t think we’re responsible for their defense.”

    We have the duty to help those who we call allys – particularly when we have abilities they lack.

    Nice aavoidance technique though – even you cannot deny that the attempted assassination of a US president is grounds for war.

  45. Molly Says:

    “Threatening acts of violence is a CRIME – and every single member of Al-Qaeda, by his alliegence to UBL, threatened an act of violence.”

    The KK are threatening. So are Right wing militias by Sharpton’s standards. There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that says you can’t belong to a threatening group. We’ve had communist political parties who supported the overthrow of the U.S. government. No crime was committed.

    Constitutional Rights must be an absolute.

  46. Adam Says:

    We’ve had communist political parties who supported the overthrow of the U.S. government. No crime was committed.

    But it’s pretty clear that in the case of Al Q, crimes WERE committed. Yes?

  47. Molly Says:

    “Nice aavoidance technique though – even you cannot deny that the attempted assassination of a US president is grounds for war.”

    uhhh…ya I could.

    I support disarming the president completely.

  48. WSU Says:

    “We’ve had communist political parties who supported the overthrow of the U.S. government. No crime was committed.”

    It depends on who you’re talking about. Its not a crime to call for the overthrow of the government – it IS a crime to threaten or to call for it to be done violently.

  49. Molly Says:

    “But it’s pretty clear that in the case of Al Q, crimes WERE committed. Yes?”

    By some people but not all. People in the Weather Underground committed crimes, but not all of them. Bill Ayers is a free man…maybe it’s just due to lack of evidence or maybe not. Nonetheless, belonging to the group itself is not a problem.

    The KKK commits crimes as does the Mafia yet we do not jail every member unless they were actually doing it.

  50. WSU Says:

    Really, so, if someone attempts to assassinate a US President, its not grounds for war?

  51. WSU Says:

    somebody needs to ban this idiot. Where’s KWN when you need him?

  52. Molly Says:

    #50
    Nope.

  53. Adam Says:

    Except that a couple of boneheads in the KKK or the mafia killing a few people here and there, while deplorable, isn’t the same as an effective act of war that causes thousands of deaths.

  54. Molly Says:

    “isn’t the same as an effective act of war that causes thousands of deaths.”

    If they were actually involved in the 9/11 plot, then there is plenty of evidence to convict them in a criminal court (habeas corpus.)

    If they weren’t involved, then there is no problem.

    Same thing with the KKK or the Weather Underground. If the person is involved in the actively involved in the plot or committed the plot, then take them to trial and convict them.

    Nothing the courts can’t handle. They’ve been doing it for a long time.

  55. WSU Says:

    soldiers can’t stop to collect evidence and test for finger prints in the middle of a warzone. These thugs operate outside the protection of US and international law, and should be treated accordingly.

  56. Molly Says:

    WSU- I was not talking about the warzone.

    We were talking about American citizens having the right to join the Al Qaeda, the KKK, the mafia, and whatever group they damn well please.

    As for the warzone…simple. Cut the funding for it and bring em home.

  57. WSU Says:

    and if you REALLY want to know what happens when you process terrorists through the justice system, look at Scotland….

  58. WSU Says:

    “As for the warzone…simple. Cut the funding for it and bring em home.”

    So its no issue if people are being raped, murdered, oppressed, beaten, etc. by an oppressive government or a terrorist group?

  59. Molly Says:

    WSU #58
    You’re talking about abu ghraib or the CIA’s black sites?

    I’m not sure we need a secret police.

  60. WSU Says:

    A few hundred KILLERS, TERRORISTS, etc inside a CIA prison does not even remotely equate to the tens of millions of INNOCENT people who you so strongly object to providing with a free, independent, democratic, and peaceful government.

  61. Molly Says:

    WSU- a peaceful government at the barrel of our guns. It’s an oxymoron. I’m just glad the McCain lost. He wanted to attack Iran, and he probably would have needed a draft for his plans.

  62. Molly Says:

    The Afghanistan election was bogus. Not only did we select which opposition parties (no Talis) were on the ballot, but Karzai may have still cheated.

  63. WSU Says:

    “WSU- a peaceful government at the barrel of our guns. It’s an oxymoron.”

    Under that description, the US government is illegal and should be abandoned, because it too, was developed from war.

  64. Molly Says:

    “Under that description, the US government is illegal and should be abandoned, because it too, was developed from war.”

    Their own guns not an imperial power invading them.

  65. WSU Says:

    “but Karzai may have still cheated.”

    Show me an election free from fraud ANYWHERE, and you might have a point. No Democracy is perfect, even ours, but it far better than the alternative you so warmly embrace.

  66. Molly Says:

    WSU,

    When you only allow opposition parties that are U.S. approved it defeats the point of the election.

    U.S. approved candidate #1
    U.S. approved candidate #2
    U.S. approved candidate #3
    U.S. approved candidate #4

    The election was more for U.S. voters than it was for them.

  67. WSU Says:

    “Their own guns not an imperial power invading them.”

    ah – so you opposed the help of the french, and all the other countries who came to the aid of the USA?

  68. WSU Says:

    So what is your solution? Restore the taliban? Let women be killed and raped for not covering their nose? Let men be jailed for shaving?

    How about putting someone from the old Iraqi regeime in power? I’m sure he could open up the old skeleton factories easily…

  69. Molly Says:

    “ah – so you opposed the help of the french, and all the other countries who came to the aid of the USA?”

    No, I oppose invading countries for regime change especially when the reasons for going are continually changing.

    Look the Libertarian movement is very tiny. Maybe 2-5 million Paulites out there. We need to grow the ranks so we can hold the GOP hostage.

  70. Molly Says:

    WSU,

    Withdraw. Not one American should die for this crap.

    However, there is nothing wrong with negotiating with the Taliban. I believe the Taliban and Al Qaeda are different groups. Maybe we can save Kabul.

  71. Molly Says:

    Well, we can leave Bush and Cheney behind to fight.

  72. Molly Says:

    Airlift the Bush Freedom Institute to Afghanistan so Bush and Cheney will have a base.

  73. WSU Says:

    “Look the Libertarian movement is very tiny. Maybe 2-5 million Paulites out there. We need to grow the ranks so we can hold the GOP hostage.”

    You are an absolute lunatic who defends both Al-Qaeda and the attempted MURDER of a United States President. You believe there is a right to be a terrorist, and that freedom for others is not worth fighting for, unless of course they’ve killed someone or been accused of the same.

    You’re the reason I have such contempt for libertarians.

  74. Molly Says:

    WSU Says,

    I’m defending what the U.S. court would do as is not changing it for this. If they have evidence, go ahead and convict them.

    But as we’ve seen in the past…juries won’t convict unless you at least have something there to convince them of the guilt.

  75. Molly Says:

    As do I contempt for the War Party.

    Finally we agree on something. We agree to have contempt for each other!

  76. tim Says:

    this early start for johnson shows that he is serious and could really harness the ron paul crowd, bring young people back over, get libertarians on board. he def adds to the field.

  77. Bill589 Says:

    Molly
    Bush W. And Cheney are honorable men who did their best running this country through difficult times.

  78. Win M. Says:

    #73 – Trust me; the vast majority of libertarians and libertarian-Republicans (myself included) DON’T subscribe to this crap. It’s just the paranoid cranks that make all the noise and, consequently, get all the attention.

  79. Gary Johnson 2012 Says:

    To jump in to this discussion thread here, I think that where the neoconservative Republicans and the noninterventionist Republicans can agree is that we both want peace. We simply disagree on how to get there. Now, Gary Johnson has said he believes “in a strong defense both at home and abroad. However, I was opposed to the war in Iraq as Governor of New Mexico and continue to believe that the United States should withdraw our troops from Iraq as soon as effectively possible. The United States should only be involved in just causes and should not engage in military action except when needed to protect its specific interests. The United States should be protected from terrorism and those that attack America should be brought to justice quickly and efficiently.”

    Keep in mind that the constitutional noninterventionist foreign policy position is a self-defensive posture, not a no-defense posture.

    A President Johnson would indeed move our troops out of Iraq in a swift and orderly manner, but he would not simply withdraw from Afghanistan. He would certainly re-focus our mission in Afghanistan, away from trying to administrate a huge foreign aid boondoggle and turn the Afghanis into little Westernized democrats, as our current mission has been for the past several years, and toward the original mission of finding those responsible for 9/11 and bringing them to justice, dead or alive.

    So the debate between the Johnsonites and the non-Johnsonites is not between Swiss-like neutrality and fascistic belligerent jingoism. It’s merely a debate over how to manage a strong, defensive military that we both agree that we need, and how to prosecute a war against certain Islamic jihadists that we both agree we must fight. So, let’s have a robust and honest, but respectful, debate, but we ought to reserve our full judgment about certain candidates until we actually are able to hear them out from the horse’s mouth. :)

  80. Gary Johnson 2012 Says:

    And, btw, looks like Gov. Johnson spoke to the Santa Fe New Mexican today, regarding his forthcoming PAC: http://www.santafenewmexican.co m/Local%20News/Group-wants-Johnson-back-on-ballot

  81. Jerald Says:

    I think Molly should spend some time “roaming freely” in central China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, or even Russia spouting her mouth off and waiting for enough evidence to get a conviction before engaging in self-defense.

    If she lives, she will have learned from it.

    Whether she is ever able to make it back to the US to apply what she learned is another issue…

  82. Bill Says:

    Neoconservatives are like the undead….they just won’t go away.

  83. Molly Says:

    Jerald,

    Then get on over there and fight them. Don’t waste your time here in the States.

    Go advance DICK Cheney’s agenda for him.

  84. ItalJoeSD Says:

    Equation:

    Molly = Puke (or poop)

  85. Martha Says:

    83. Dick Cheney? LOVE that guy. :-)
    Wish we had more Americans just like him.

  86. Martha Says:

    Gary Johnson will go nowhere, because he’s missing the boat on a major issue. The US cannot afford to be an isolationist country, and Republicans will never, ever vote for one.

  87. Will Berg Says:

    THIS GARY JOHNSON GUY MUST BE STOPPED! IF WE CAN’T HAVE A PRO-WAR CANDIDATE THEN WE NEED TO KEEP OBAMA IN THERE TO PROMOTE WAR IN PAKISTAN AND AFGHANISTAN!

    FISCAL CONSERVATIVES HAVE NO PLACE IN THE NEW DEMOCRACY OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY!

    SUPPORT OBAMA, HUCKABEE OR ROMNEY IN 2012!

  88. OHIO JOE Says:

    “SUPPORT OBAMA, HUCKABEE OR ROMNEY IN 2012!”
    Haha, that is an entertaining combination.

  89. Liberty Says:

    “The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop.”

  90. Will Berg Says:

    #89: GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS AN ISOLATIONIST KOOK!

    OBAMA HAS IT RIGHT! WE ARE ONE WORLD. WE MUST HAVE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT!

  91. Molly Says:

    5) attempted to assassinate a US President

    I find it ludicrous that people think it’s worth going to war over a Bushie.

    Our executive branch is out control. We need to amend the Constitution to get rid of that branch.

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  93. anonymous Says:

    I don’t know Mr. Johnson. He won’t get the nominee in 2012. So far, we have gotten 3 choice that might run for President in 2012. It will be Pawlenty, Palin, and Huckabee.

  94. huck Says:

    This is awesome news. We might actually have a choice other than:
    Corporatist war hawk A (D)
    Corporatist war hawk B (R)

  95. OhWow Says:

    Lol, not much of a difference between liberals and libertarians is there?

    My point? What? It’s obvious, I’m not putting on airs..

    Molly’s a retard.

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  98. Andrew76 Says:

    I can’t believe we’re seriously debating the “good” things G.W.B. did. Hmm… he completely failed in any attempt to wrap up the “war on terror,” and why no “war on murder,” I wonder? Completely failed in supporting free markets. Completely failed at limiting the size, scope and influence of the Federal Government. The level of intellectual vacuousness never fails to impress me. The verdict was in a long, long time ago: you are breathtakingly irrelevant if you’re still supporting his presidency, the same if you’re still supporting Obama.
    Further, you are being willfully deceptive or willfully ignorant if you still believe that “not trying to fight every single battle on the face of the earth at all times” is “isolationism.” You f*cking war hawks have no faith whatsoever in the capitalist system that single handedly crushed the Soviet Union without firing a shot. Reagan’s legacy was that he understood free market capitalism, and that no other system could compete. Uh, why are there troops in Korea? In Germany? In Japan? You are a fool if you think this is necessary and valuable. Yes, yes, wanting free trade with all, free travel, LEGAL immigration, extremely limited government, free association and above all free market capitalism is so “old news” and “isolationist.” Everyone’s tired of hearing the argument. Isolationism means, literally, we cut off ALL contact with the outside world. No one, especially Dr. Ron Paul, has ever EVER advocated this. “So you believe in defending freedom and Democracy around the world.” NO, I believe in advocating freedom around the world, and not trying to fight everyone’s battles all the time. Foreign policy? Like any rational human being: strong nat’l defense, ie: if you attack us, unprovoked, then it’s game over. No chit chats, no warnings, no sanctions, just the end. We have a right to defend ourselves morally, IF we haven’t initiated the use of force in the first place, ie: going around the world with our military in everyone’s business, setting up shop where ever our corporatist/crony-ist leaders see a business interest. War hawks go home. America doesn’t need you anymore.

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