I nearly wet myself this morning reading a blog entry from Erick Erickson, pulling the race card on Florida Republicans.
Well, we knew Crist was desperate, but pulling the race card seems really low even for him, given all the videos circulating out there about Crist’s personal life. Good grief.
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The video shows Marco Rubio speaking in Spanish, then has a clip of Barack Obama referring to Marco Rubio as a Cuban, then says no way “WE” can trust Rubio.
Really? Because he’s Cuban? Really?
That’s pathetic.
This is the typical race-bating tactic that has been used by the Obama administration and his supporters. Link to a site, that linked from another site, that falsely claimed that team Crist was behind this video, and then add a few of your own comments, pushing the race card angle. Do not worry about fact checking, or including a link that supports the racist claims or the accusation that the Crist campaign was behind the video.
This method of race-bating has been used by progressive blogs, community activists, BET news, MSNBC and other liberal interests to promote the Obama agenda. Although it is arguable if this method of dirty campaigning has been successful in promoting a socialist agenda, I have been proud that most of us in the mainstream of the rightosphere have kept away from this type of trickery, Erickson excluded.
This is what Erickson is not telling you in his post;
Erickson has a history of using race-bating to score political points, mostly against liberal African Americans. Upon the announcement of President Obama wining the Nobel peace prize, Erickson said this;
Twitter: Obama won because the Nobel Committee had ‘affirmative action quotas.’
Erickson himself has also played the victim card, lashing out against those who he described as ‘race pimping’ corporate America and conservative personalities. This is where I agree with Erickson, but he cannot play the role of the P.C. shepherd and the boy who cried wolf, at the same time. If he continues to do so, he will be wedged within the creditability gap with the looney lefty.
Polls indicate that voters remain hesitant on supporting Republican candidates, as they are patiently waiting for the movement to once again become the ‘adult’ party. Pushing away Hispanic-American voters with childish acts of online smudgery brings zero value to our cause.
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Kristofer Lorelli can be contacted at lorville@rogers.com, on Facebook and Twitter/Kris_Lorelli
November 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Kris,
Leaving Erickson aside……
Matthew actually posted the ad the other day, and the unanimous consensus was that it DID play the race card, and was a disgusting and dishonest ad, trying to imply that Rubio buddied up with Obama and Martinez, was endorsed by Obama, and endorsed Martinez. Neither of them was true of course.
Whether there is any direct link to Crist, we don’t know out here. But if there is, Crist should be ashamed of himself, and voters should reject that sort of crap. Just because an ambitious politician’s wife is hispanic doesn’t mean he’s above using race to win. He doesn’t have to actually hate hispanics to try to benefit from others’ hatred.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Kris,
How about you repost the ad, and let people decide for themselves?
November 12th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
2 MWS, isn’t obvious that Kris is doing his darnedest to misrepresent Rubio?
November 12th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Kris, keep beating your drum you one man crazy band you.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Dan,
Yeah. Rubio (and anyone endorsing him) are the only people Kris has gone after lately.
Kris,
You should scroll through the feedback that ad got on the other thread.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Johnson/Crist 2012! Hahahahahahahahahahaha, not!
November 12th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
For those interesting in seeing the ad in question, it can be viewed here:
http://race42008.com/2009/11/11/the-race-card-and-rubio/
November 12th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Mr. Lorelli, the most interesting part of your post is that you are stating one should not state one thing, and be another. I tend to agree. I thought hypocrisy was very PC now. I personally still have a problem with it.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Kristofer, it pain me to disagree with a fellow camp member, but I cannot exactly agree with you here. I do not believe that Mr. Crist is a racist, a RINO, a bad person or un-American. However, the character who produced this video for Mr. Crist is a loose cannon which just exploded. I am sorry, but this video did come across as racist. I could care less on one hand how both sides carry on their contest in Florida. On the other hand, if Mr. Crist cannot get his loose cannons back on the reservation, this will be nothing, but trouble for our party on a national level and we do not need it. I have no problem with you support either candidate or remaining neutral, but we cannot tolerate such loose cannons no matter where they come from.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Joe – there has been no proof that this is a Crist video and in fact is a re-production of an existing video from long ago.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Well, it that is the case, I stand corrected Kristofer.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Joe, Matthew was probably not aware, but ‘E’ certainly was.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Kris, might I kindly suggest you spend more time coming up with reasons to vote FOR Gov Crist, as opposed to AGAINST Marco Rubio? It would help the winner of the primary greatly, and I’d rather have too much support on election night than not enough for this race.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
From what I can see:
1) We have no idea whether or not Crist had anything to do with this. As far as we know, it could be intended to make him look bad, not help him.
2) Whomever made it was race baiting, but intended to hurt whom?
3) I see just as big of a problem attempting to link him to Obama, when Rubio is further from Obama than what Crist is.
It’s just a lousy video all around, with the losers probably all Republicans.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Kris, you are just itching for a fight with Erickson, eh? Granted I think he’s overall a twit, which was more than clear in the whole Scozzafava “Republicans have two days to endorse Hoffman or, darn it, someone’s gonna die here!” and his whole “Crist = moderate = BAD!” is equally misguided, but on the whole I agree with Richard. I think Crist is overall not a bad candidate, he’s got some excellent strengths (political talent and optimism are huge no matter where you are), but Rubio thus far has a more compelling case. You really should make the case for Crist as the better of the two. That’s the real way to sway opinions. I for one remain more than open to it and I don’t think Rubio’s conservatism should guarantee him a free pass to our nomination either.
-”1) We have no idea whether or not Crist had anything to do with this. As far as we know, it could be intended to make him look bad, not help him.”
That’s actually a good point. We should probably be a little less quick to jump on Crist here, myself included, so long as he completely disavows any connections. This could be a weapon made up to appear to be with Crist. It’s not likely, but not impossible to pull a stunt like that either.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
#15 MPC, the problem is that one of his head campaign people had his electronic fingerprints on the website “therealmarcorubio.com” until it was discovered and they scrubbed his info from it. This does NOT mean that Gov Crist necessarily endorsed or condoned this kind of smear, but it doesn’t reflect well at all on him, either. As for the Machiavellian argument that it was actually some supporter of Meeks, seeking to stir the pot by planting Gov Crist’s campaign worker’s info into a blatant attack site on Marco Rubio. It’s too cute by half, and I think it’s much more likely to be what it appears to be, and that’s not good for Gov Crist.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
What do you expect from a “man” who runs a website that supported the murder of Dr. Tiller, and called a Supreme Court Justice a “goatf@#$er”, and endorses violence against those that don’t toe the line of their idea of redstate fascism.
RS and EE are an embarrassment to Republicans.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Thoughts on the minority vote:
If we put up a black Republican against a white Democrat, who is going to get more of the black vote? We all know the answer to that one. Is Michele Bachmann going to get most of the Jewish vote, just because she herself is Jewish? Or how about Harry Reid, who for being Mormon must have legions of Mormons lining up behind him to support his public option? The list could go on and on.
We should be careful in thinking that being a member of a group is going to get the rest to go along, particularly if the individual is affiliated with stances or people that run contrary to common sentiments. Lest folks forget, the current resurgent conservative movement may have grumbled over some points of Bush’s agenda, but the revolt truly began as against immigration reform. How is Rubio or any other movement conservative going to do among Hispanics when he’s being pushed by a hodgepodge of hardcore conservative groupings, many of whom are very anti-immigrant? I wonder how the whole idea endorsing English as a national language, something we in all of our immigrant history have never needed, looks to Latinos and other immigrants?
Most conservatives believe themselves to be impartial, and truly most would hold to that ideal (there are few real racists left in our party anymore), but things like that reflect a serious lack of understanding of immigrants in general, an ignorance to the racial and exclusionary overtones of that policy, and a total denial of political reality. Republicans can’t count on the Democrats behaving so badly that white Independents will put them over the finish line every year – that’ll work next year but come 2012 to take down Obama himself we’ll need bigger tools. We need to win more votes outside of our culturally conservative strongholds that the conservative movement represents – in the suburbs and in the cities – and that means revitalizing ourselves once more as the party of business and upward mobility and in general becoming a far more diverse party united around a sparse few core concerns and interests – responsible government, economic opportunity, and good leadership. Much more Jack Kemp, and less Glenn Beck.
Back with Bush we were very good at this before all of us let ourselves be sidetracked by the allures of power. I think Rubio has the potential to be a positive step forward, but he may also be held back critically by the allures of purist conservatism that will cost him a vote he should win against Crist – the large Hispanic immigrant vote of Florida. He should be warned that Crist, for his faults as a leader, does represent a style in the Republican Party that as Kristofer noted is very adept in just the sort of areas and demographic groups we need to do well in. Hispanics may in the end go with the personable candidiate who appeals to their political stances, rather than the ethnic name.
And Richard,
Someone could have easily concocted the planted name as well and removed it to look like an attempt at coverup. I think we should remove it generally from our considerations as to who is the better candidate unless concrete evidence tying it to Crist shows up.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
PS….
NY-23 was deemed by EE as a “hill to die on”.
LOLOLOL
RS is a sad joke….and in several years will be viewed in the same category as Joe McCarthy and David Duke.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Bachmann is Jewish?
November 12th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Lame lame lame.
Your argument regarding Crist is like saying black people can’t be racist because they’re black. Most Asian store owners in heavily black neighborhoods can tell you how wrong-headed that is.
#16 has it exactly right pointing out the story behind therealmarcorubio.com. IMHO, Crist is either a scumbag or an incompetent fool that doesn’t know what his own campaign staff is doing– and those are both solid reasons to not vote for him to the office of assistant dog catcher, let alone US Senator.
Calling someone a race pimp for calling someone else a race pimp only invites that charge to go right back at you.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Tommy,
My bad, I don’t know where I heard that, but apparently she is not. Still, point stands
November 12th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
-”RS is a sad joke….and in several years will be viewed in the same category as Joe McCarthy and David Duke.”
They’ll either head down that road or return to the mainstream some what out of a desire to be something better than a fringe organization. I’d bet on the latter, based on their size, but it’s generally up to the administrators there and how they run things.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
21 – “therealmarcorubio.com” the YouTube account?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I’ll definitely never link to these people again
by Erick Erickson
http://www.redstate.com/redhot/2009/11/12/ill-definitely-never-link-to-these-people-again/
Kavon/Kris,
Can we please reciprocate in kind?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Seems like he doesn’t understand that we have a wide range of commentators on here and have something of a penchant for arguing amongst ourselves.
What does he want us to be, some sort of conservative DailyKos?
November 12th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
“What does he want us to be, some sort of conservative DailyKos?”
That’s exactly what I thought upon reading his screed, and the answer, I’m sure, is “Yes.” After all, that’s what RedState is.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
So, if Erickson is the conservative Kos, who will be his Ned Lamont?
Oh wait, it was Doug Hoffman
November 12th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
“So, if Erickson is the conservative Kos, who will be his Ned Lamont?
Oh wait, it was Doug Hoffman
” Gee, Mr. Hoffman was anti-war?
November 12th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
That’s depressingly thin-skinned and petty.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
#28: Looks like Hoffman’s rising from the dead.
If he succeeds, will Palin &co. be vindicated as geniuses, since they were declared fools for getting involved?
Nah. Probably won’t happen anyway.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
I do not think Mr. Hoffman will pull it off despite the fact that the final votes to be counted are in Hoffman strongholds. However, it looks like it will be close enough to make smart Republicans take note. The know-it-alls will just keep their hands in the sand no matter what the final out-come is.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
MPC Says:
November 12th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
So, if Erickson is the conservative Kos, who will be his Ned Lamont?
Oh wait, it was Doug Hoffman
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LOLOLOL
That’s hilarious….because it is so true.
It’s obvious that EE’s main concern is EE….anything is fair game if it results in media exposure….principles be damned.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
“That’s hilarious….because it is so true.” No it is false, first Mr. Liberman received more votes than Queen Dede and second Mr. Hoffman received a much higher per centage than Mr. Lemont so the analogy is stupid, but what do you expect from the Romney-Dede wing of our party who has lost what few marbles they had.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
“A hill to die on”.
EE and RS made their bed….now they can lie in it.
PS….Yeah….that McCain thing really worked out well…
November 12th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
“PS….Yeah….that McCain thing really worked out well…” At least we did not have Mr. Romney.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Yep. I want to take a bow because I am pretty sure I was the first person on this site to point out that Erickson was an asshole.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Yep….God forbid the GOP would actually nominate a real business person and not a career politician.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
“Yep….God forbid the GOP would actually nominate a real business person and not a career politician.” A person with good business sense is one thing, but a person who is just going to bail out business is something else.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Uhhh….who was it that stopped their campaign to run back to DC to round up the bailout votes again??
That sure worked out well.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
The wingers in the GOP torpedoed Romney because he wasn’t a militant prolifer…and there was that whole “Mormonism is a cult thing”. It was disgraceful. And now here we are….Thanks alot.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Romney should be happy McCain took the bullet for him IMO. No Republican was going to win last year once all was said and done.
And when it comes to policy I don’t think there would have been much difference between McCain and Romney at all. Both are Republicans of the same mold.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Chris,
Didn’t Romney support TARP too?
November 13th, 2009 at 9:32 am
39 OJ, Romney wrote an OpEd opposing the bailouts of GM and Chrysler. He wrote the smartest and most cogent argument of anyone on the right about not bailing them out. He also opposed Obama’s stimulus, which your girl Palin took. Where was Palin on Tarp?
November 13th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Instead of attacking RedState, which was REPORTING on the video, why don’t you attack your “fellow” Race42008 poster. Here’s some help: http://race42008.com/2009/11/11/the-race-card-and-rubio/
Instead of attacking the messenger, why not try to find the author of the video and who he is connected to?
November 14th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Chris and Kris both seem to be living in an alternate reality.
November 14th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
I’ll say!
FTW.
November 15th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Another Romney flip-flop. The lovable goof-ball who can’t make up his mind to save his life called for a US$40,000.00 taxpayer bailout of the big 3 just before the Michigan primary. This was before the economy tanked and our political elites went insane with bailouts. Romney also supported the initial Bush bailout.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:37 am
The GOP shot themselves in the foot……repeatedly….
So now we have Obama.
And it was idiots like EE who led the circular firing squad.
RS and EE are ENEMIES OF CONSERVATISM.
There is NOTHING CONSERVATIVE ABOUT NEOCONS.
They should be shunned.
November 16th, 2009 at 8:58 am
[...] the term “race-pimp” is vile when improperly applied. Lorelli did a vile and evil thing here. I found this quite shocking coming from a person whose work I had so often [...]
November 16th, 2009 at 8:58 am
[...] the term “race-pimp” is vile when improperly applied. Lorelli did a vile and evil thing here. I found this quite shocking coming from a person whose work I had so often [...]
November 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
“RS and EE are ENEMIES OF CONSERVATISM. There is NOTHING CONSERVATIVE ABOUT NEOCONS. They should be shunned.”
Chris you are spot on. The whole site drips with neoconservative drivel and a hard-core theocratic agenda. These are exactly the people who gave us the execrable Bush administration. Those that fall for the RS brand of conservatism will give us more of the same.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
The people that use ‘neoconservative’ and ‘theocratic’ as an insult are exactly the same kinds of people that do their best to backstab good Republicans at every turn. If you want to slam Republicans first and foremost, do us all a favor and go become Democrats. I get the feeling that people like Chris and noneo probably registered at redstate.com and got banned for being damned fools.
Re #24: My mistake, it’s ‘truthaboutrubio.com’ that a redstate.com reader looked into the source code of and found that it had lots of references to ‘rheffley’ (Rich Heffley). Wonder of wonders, not long after that was uncovered, all those references were scrubbed from the site. Charlie Crist wants to deny that he had anything to do with the site, but if he doesn’t know what his good friend Rich Heffley is up to, he’s a liar or a fool.
Kristofer, you started this shooting war, and it’s up to you to back down and STFU. If you’re more concerned with attacking Republicans than you are Democrats, then you should become a Democrat. And don’t give me any bull about RINOs like Dede Scozzfava who showed her real roots by endorsing the Democrat. Even Newt Gingrich is embarrassed to admit once supporting her now.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Here’s a nice diary that advocates staring at Muslim women at every given opportunity.
It was met with great enthusiasm with over 90 comments and making it to the recommended diary list….
Classy.
http://www.redstate.com/jd11756/2009/11/12/cultural-subjugation-stare-down/
And who could forget this classic written by EE his racist self defending Limbaugh’s negro ditty….Hilarity ensues…
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/some-moron-thinks-he-knows-what-hes-writing-about/
EE and RS represent exactly why the GOP lost so badly last year. Hate loses every time.
RS is StormFront with Google Ads.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
LOL @ lamecock….
Oy the drama….you are quite the concern troll aren’t you…
LOL
Don’t you have to actually WORK for someone to get “fired”??
LOL
What’s wrong ….not much work for ambulance chasers lately??
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:10 am
[...] course, if people like Eric Erickson have their way, a race war will erupt between the idiots on the right. This is just way too funny [...]