It’s been nearly a year since I completed my wildly popular, “Blogging the Right Thing” series.
I thought I was done, however there was a brand new paperback version out at Costco and it had…a new chapter.
This was good, because the publication date for Doing the Right Thing made sense from a publication standpoint as the book came out just a few days after the election, right before the Christmas shopping season. However, from a literary standpoint, it meant that with all the steps in publishing a book, Huckabee had to finish writing the book before the General Election, even before the Republican Convention. So, thus it was a 2008 election book written without knowing the outcome of 2008.
The book prior to the new chapter remains as it was, with the exception of a couple technical errors being cleaned up. Huckabee’s final additional chapter has a few nuggets in it.
Huckabee criticizes TARP and the Stimulus, writing of Stimulus supporters, and points to his opposition, as well as the hypocrisy of many of his primary assailants in opposing TARP. Huckabee wrote, “I watched in disbelief and disgust as some of the most vocal critics of my campaign lined up like penguins to the march and said, ‘We have to do it.’ What? How dare they question my conservative credentials for balancing my state’s budget and then proposing something as leftist as having the government jump in, nationalize banks, pay off bad mortgages at the expense of people who took out good ones, and subsidize insurance companies, automakers, and Wall Street brokerage firms so they could stay in business.”
If Huckabee runs in 2012, expect the bailouts to be both a defensive and offensive weapon.
One thing, Huckabee does make clear is his opinion of Sarah Palin. The media has generally tried to take Huckabee out of context in order to create the Huckabee-Palin axis rivalry.
Huckabee writes in the book that Palin’s nomination was a “Lazarus, Come Forth” moment for the McCain campaign signifying that he believed Palin brought the campaign to life. While, he did believe that some interviews such as the Couric interview were fair, overall he felt the media’s treatment of Governor Palin wasn’t.
Huckabee writes simply, “I’m often asked if Sarah Palin will be a strong force in the future of the GOP. The answer?
“You betcha.”
Perhaps, the most fascinating fact to come out of the chapter was Huckabee’s contingency plan if Joe Lieberman had been nominated for VP. Huckabee planned to not appear at the Republican Convention “quietly” and to focus his attention exclusively on House, Governor, and Senate candidates. Critics will challenge the statement as self-serving after the fact as he didn’t say it publicly. However, given McCain’s oppositional syndrome, he’s not the time you threaten, because McCain will be more likely to do what you don’t want to show that he’s the boss.
Huckabee concludes the new chapter with very good denunciation of the Obama Administration that’s a call to action for conservatives.
I’m now reading “A Simple Christmas.” And I’ll keep it simple and spare you the chapter by chapter review.
November 18th, 2009 at 2:09 am
Thank you for keeping this review short, Adam.
I believe TARP passed with large majorities and was supported by most people in the Senate and House. The stimulus package not so much. I completely understand Mike Huckabee’s opposition to the Stimulus. His opposition to TARP is rather more muddy, but perhaps commendable.
Huckabee calling his primary opponents “penguins lining up to the march” is rather pitiful. I don’t think that’s Vertical Politics, is it? More like the Politics of Calling People Names… I think Mike Huckabee’s propensity to take political disagreements or fights personally (thin-skinned?) is one of his bigger flaws.
November 18th, 2009 at 2:27 am
I think people are confusing TARP with the stimulus.
TARP basically ensured our survival. It was enacted by President Bush and was supported by almost all the republicans including McCain and Palin.
Not only was Romney right to support TARP, you would have to have been crazy not to have.
November 18th, 2009 at 2:33 am
And by the way Hucky in case you missed it the stimulus worled! Good luck running against a stimulus! The issue (as Romney correctly noted) was the size and whether as Thune says it should NOW be ceased.
November 18th, 2009 at 2:40 am
Yeah, no TARP would have been a disaster. We would literally be in a depression right now. 20% unemployment, DOW basically gone, and widespread civil unrest.
It wouldn’t have been pretty.
As for Huckabee, I think he’s moving into frontrunner status, which I think is great. I think he would fall apart in a general election, as his religious extremism came to the political forefront.
November 18th, 2009 at 2:43 am
The Georgia Chamber of Commerce is excited to announce best-selling author and number one rated weekend television host Mike Huckabee will be the featured speaker at the Annual Meeting Dinner on January 11, 2010.
http://gachamber.com/Annual-Meeting-Dinner-and-Eggs-Issues.januaryevents.0.html
November 18th, 2009 at 2:47 am
I don’t normally agree with democrats but I agree with you there Kevin.
November 18th, 2009 at 2:55 am
Mike is right. Period.
TARP and the Stimulus have BOTH been disasters. Quit believing Obama’s “saved” jobs nonsense.
Real unemployment is pushing 17%! Even higher in some states. People are mad. Leftist “change” and goverment ownership is not working. Tarp and the Stimulus have made it worse AND the voters will make their CHANGE in ‘10 & ‘12!
November 18th, 2009 at 2:56 am
Adam.
I agree with Huckabee’s assessment of McCain’s tapping of Sarah Palin for the Veep spot. It did bring the campaign to life. A 72 year-old Republican white guy who can’t really address the economy and basically is campaigning on “Competency” doesn’t make for an exciting campaign. He needed, and got, a game-changer with Sarah Palin.
But what was the cost of getting that game-changer? I’ve wondered what it was that took McCain’s heart out of campaigning during those long fall days of September/October/November. I’m beginning to wonder if it wasn’t the turning of the media on him and on his Vice Presidential pick. I wonder if he felt like Julius Caesar seeing that he was about to be stabbed by Brutus (as pictured/wrote about by Shakespeare).
November 18th, 2009 at 2:59 am
4. Yep, pal
Christian Southern Baptist is religious extremism.
Who taught you that lie?
November 18th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Facts / Problems With ObamaCare
This list comes from Dick Morris…
Print and carry so you are armed with the truth. Now go out and educate some people!
1. The $400 billion cut in Medicare
2. The inevitable scarcity that will result from the addition of 35 million new patients with no new doctors or nurses
3. The fine on the uninsured of 2.5 percent of their income if they don’t buy insurance
4. The high cost of these mandatory insurance policies ($15,000 per family)
5. The low level of subsidy available for the uninsured (only after they pay 8-12 percent of their incomes)
6. The likelihood of a $1,700 increase in the average family’s premiums
7. The possibility of up to five years in prison for failing to buy insurance or pay the fine
8. The taxation of medical devices like pacemakers, wheelchairs, prosthetic limbs, hearing aids, etc.
9. The tax on sick people (increasing the threshold for deducting medical expenses from 7.5 percent to 10 percent of income)
10. The additional fiscal burden on the states of the increase in Medicaid eligibility
11. The 40 percent tax on health insurance premiums that will affect households earning more than $75,000 by the fifth year of the plan.
AP Poll: Americans fret over health overhaul costs
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091117/ap_on_go_co/us_ap_poll_health_care
November 18th, 2009 at 3:26 am
Tone it down.
November 18th, 2009 at 3:30 am
^ Huckabee’s brand of Southern Christian Baptism is certainly extreme.
As for the health care list, meh. I don’t believe most of it.
But if 1 were true, shouldn’t that be a good thing, at least for Republicans? Less government intervention in health care, less spending?
November 18th, 2009 at 3:37 am
CORRECTING Health’s incorrect comment…
“It was enacted by President Bush and was supported by almost all the republicans including McCain and Palin.”
It was opposed by a majority of house Republicans.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll681.xml
Palin didn’t know what TARP was. McCain & Romney did support TARP…a.k.a. the bank / AIG bailouts.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:21 am
Yeah but house republicans are pretty whack! I meant the main players.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:40 am
“I think people are confusing TARP with the stimulus.
TARP basically ensured our survival. It was enacted by President Bush and was supported by almost all the republicans including McCain and Palin.
Not only was Romney right to support TARP, you would have to have been crazy not to have.” Boy, it is early in the morning and we are already having are entertainment. Sure TARP and the Stimulus are two different things, but both are bad and disastrous. Both cause unemployment, lack of consumer confidence and Real estate problem, and frankly it is doubtful that we would have one without the other.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:06 am
How about reading a history book?
The great depression was greatly caused by the collapse of the banking institution. Instead of 10% unemployment, history shows we would be looking at 25-30% unemployment and wages dramatically slashed.
This does not mean we should have bailed out all institutions such as GM, but we could not allow the banking system to totally collapse. That is just being wrong headed.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:13 am
As for this article, its amazing how people like to gloss over Huckabee.
How about talking about how he let a rapist out of jail, who later raped and murdered. Of course, as long as he talks pro-life, he doesn’t have to be pro-life. What a hypocrite. And what makes matters worse, he tries to blame others for his error in judgment.
Lets also talk about how he raised taxes (oh no, we cant do that, Huckabee said he lowered taxes). What dishonesty.
Lets talk about how he tried to get a reporter to repeat a religious bigotry lie about LDS people. Oh,he didn’t’ know better, what a lie. For a man who was suppose to be a religious leader to say he didn’t know better is just laughable.
No, Huckabee should never ever get the nomination. He would turn me of the Republican party. Do the right thing should be renamed my lies and distortions.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:56 am
TARP was not the proper role of the Federal government. Those “conservatives” who support TARP are taking a position that the Federal Government’s role is to pick winners and losers and to save us from the results of our own stupidity.
TARP was a TRAP for conservatives and right leaning folks that absolutely undermines every economic position we take. Had TARP not passed, Citibank would have failed, we’d have gone through a rough spot, and the losers would have been taken off the field by the forces of creation destruction. Instead, the federal government decided to be big daddy. It was an absolute disgrace, much of the money has been squandered, and it’s been used by the Obama Administration to get its hooks into private enterprise.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Reply to 18.
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That’s what they thought before the great depression and see what that got use, all the liberal social programs.
In reality, had Tarp not passed, AIG, Citibank, and Bank of america would have failed. The government, would have been on the hook for billions dollars any ways since they insured the deposits in these banks.
AIG was an insurer of other Banks, so if AIG went, 90%+ of the other banks would have failed. Business would have collapsed because we would have no banking systems. 100’s of millions people would have lost their jobs and their homes because of the collapse of the Banks, and the collapse of Business, thus creating a Second Great Depression.
Then liberals would have swooped in and created a Socialist Nation. Some people have no brain cells.
There is no perfect system of government, and being too pure one way or the other is a recipe for disaster. Without TARP, we would have seen the end of the Conservative movement and the Republican party.
Once again, Please, Please try reading a book, do some research, stop trying to look for the Utopia of Conservatism, its would be a disaster, just as the liberals are discovery that trying to bring forth their version of Utopia is spelling a disaster for liberalism.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:34 am
And you’re just stupid/dishonest enough to believe Huck.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:41 am
“Then liberals would have swooped in and created a Socialist Nation.” And they are not trying to do that now?
November 18th, 2009 at 8:48 am
TARP was sold as a way to buy up the toxic assets of the subprime market, did thay happen, no we still have that problem, infact we are expanding the use of said financial products, an number of firms, Goldman, B&A, et al, did profit, but there has been little
liquidity in the consumer market, so it failed
November 18th, 2009 at 9:14 am
“TARP was not the proper role of the Federal government. Those “conservatives” who support TARP are taking a position that the Federal Government’s role is to pick winners and losers and to save us from the results of our own stupidity.”
It has nothing to do with picking winners and losers – and everything to do with saving the American economy from completete disaster. The Stimulus was a bad project – but TARP was very different. If TARP had not passed, the credit markets would have completely locked up, more banks would have failed, billions would have been lost, and the economy would be in FAR worse shape than it is today.
The results weren’t perfect or exactly as intended, but TARP probably helped to save us from a banking crisis of epic porportions that could have completely shut down the economy.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:17 am
And failing. Look at all the town halls. Look at all the tea parties. Look at all the independents turning to the republican party Had we had 20%+ unemployment, the socialist agenda would have been easy to push through. Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
#17,
I wonder how Snoopy, Goofy, Pluto, and Benji would feel about a Huckabee canidacy?
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/12/17/details-of-huckabees-dog-torture-episode-coming-out/
Isn’t 60-70% of Americans, Animal lovers? What is it about the saying, “The Apple Doesn’t Fall Far From The Tree”?
November 18th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Huck is not his son.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:40 am
#26,
That is true. What about the cover-up? The Firing?
November 18th, 2009 at 9:47 am
As I’ve said for many months, I believe Heath is a liberal troll posing as a Romney supporter. I would appreciate it if others recognized this, and took him with a grain of salt. Whether or not he is a troll, he hurts Mitt more than he helps him (by far).
The stimulus hasn’t worked, at all. Doing nothing would have been better, but targeted incentives for business would have done wonders, and things would have turned around quickly.
TARP is another story. Everyone that even claimed to have the credentials to understand the magnitude of the problem agreed that something had to be done to avoid a complete financial meltdown…the end of America as we know it. Whether or not that is a fact can not be proven either way, but those that had the background to make a judgement on it all agreed something had to be done. However, as Ohio Joe used to acknowledge, Mitt did not support TARP of the same magnitude, but a much smaller targeted version with payback guarantees and protections. That was in the days that OJ was being more honest and less hateful.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:48 am
You forget one thing, Huck never does anything wrong, its always some one else fault.
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November 18th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Reply to #28.
Well said.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:07 am
“That was in the days that OJ was being more honest and less hateful.” Well, I will certainly admit that I am much less of a happy camper with regards to both TARP and Mr. Romney. When TARP first passed, some of the senior citizens in my neighborhood were very discouraged and in short they fear what the country was becoming and felt that we need to pray hard to save the country. I have nothing against prayer, but as much as I felt uncomfortable about TARP, I had faith that our country would survive and recover. I still believe that we shall survive and recover, but in short, things did not have to be this bad. Yes thank goodness for Tea Parties and Town Halls for finally rallying the people against such gangsters. The Chicago gangsters saw how easy it was to push TARP down the throats of American tax-payers and then they felt that they could push through bail-outs, stimulus packages and now Socialized Medicine down our throats with the treat of jail. These clowns are finally finding out that if they insult the people, the people will rise up and have Tea parties. The Gangsters in our own party should have also figured this out, but instead they allowed NY-23 to become a mess and further insult the people. Yes I hate it! I never would have believe that this would happen.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Ohio Joe,
I saw your conversation regarding Huckabee and Palin. I think that Huckabee was just using self deprecating humor by saying that Palin looked good. Huckabee knows that he has put on weight and has lost some hair. And I think he was just humbling himself and it may have come off wrong.
Here is an excellent interview of Huckabee in Grand Rapids MI where he was on his book tour the day before Palin would arrive. He praises Palin and corrects the out of context quotes:
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/11/mike_huckabee_talks_rock_star.html
November 18th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Question do you all think obama makes a primetime speech on his Afghanistan decision before thanksgiving?
November 18th, 2009 at 10:22 am
OJ,
Which is worse to your mind, TARP or the Stimulus?
November 18th, 2009 at 10:29 am
“Which is worse to your mind, TARP or the Stimulus?” I would probably say the Stimulus because it is doing more monetary damage. However, TARP appears to have damaged us both psycholigically and morally, and I think that we would not have the stimulus if we did not have TARP in the first place.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:32 am
I notice OJ no longer admits that Mitt wanted a much smaller version of TARP, just enough to save the nation from meltdown.
Regarding anything Huckabee has said toward Palin, I would think the one people would be pointing out would be the one made about a week ago essentially referring to her as an ignoramus. It was posted on race4 as a link….does anyone know (Aron) where that link would be found? When potential candidates are poking fun at Sarah because she is quite nice looking, that should be looked at as complimentary remarks.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:35 am
“I think that we would not have the stimulus if we did not have TARP in the first place.”
that’s quite an admission on your part….if the experts were right, then you are right, the financial meltdown would have brought us to our knees as a country to make a stimulus package completely ineffective, even one targeted properly.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:52 am
“that’s quite an admission on your part….if the experts were right, then you are right, the financial meltdown would have brought us to our knees as a country to make a stimulus package completely ineffective, even one targeted properly.
” Huh? First of all, we did not have to have a meltdown in the first place. I guess I have to address the other point first. Yes, I used to say that Mr. Romney wanted a smaller TARP instead of TARP on steroids. I probably admitted that a smaller TARP (and a better managed TARP) would not be as bad as what we have. While I do not recall admitting (to use that term) that we needed TARP to avoid a meltdown, I might have a admitted (for lack of a better term) that a small TARP MAY be alright if you will. In short, I am far from convinced that we would have had a full fledged meltdown. Shortterm trouble? Perhaps so. The reason TARP caused the stimulus has nothing directly to do with a meltdown. The promoters of the Stimulus (and socialized medicine and such for that matter) figured that since they so easily got away with TARP, these Chicago gangsters figured that they could screw the American people some more.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:03 am
“First of all, we did not have to have a meltdown in the first place”
Really, who says so????? Like I said everyone with the credentials to know on this subject agreed that it WAS NECESSARY to avoid a complete financial calamity.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:06 am
#33,
Obama will wait on the Afghanistan decision until OBAMACARE is decided. If he gets the Public option, he will have to pacify the Moderates/Conservatives by sending more troops.
If he doesn’t get the public option, he will have to paciffy the left by withdrawing troops or at’least something in that direction.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:11 am
#40 a very shallow and corrupt man indeed!
November 18th, 2009 at 11:17 am
“Like I said everyone with the credentials to know on this subject agreed that it WAS NECESSARY to avoid a complete financial calamity.” Yeah and did not a few of them say that unemployment would remain low and housing values would rise. With respect, you do want to buy a house now? Because you can find plenty of cheap ones.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:18 am
“he will have to pacify the Moderates/Conservatives by sending more troops.” Sorry if I am turning into a malcontent, but that is no longer going to pacify me, this is no longer 2004 or 2006!
November 18th, 2009 at 11:20 am
The unemployment is a completely separate subject. A properly targeted stimulus designed to stimulate business decisions would have take care of that just fine. The housing crisis is related to the continuous lousy economy because of the STUPID stimulus package, nothing to do with TARP. The right sized TARP designed as Romney wanted to ensure pay back was necessary to avoid a complete crisis. What you are referring to is stimulus related, and it was very poorly designed, and wayyyyy too expensive.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:25 am
#43,
‘Placate’ probably would have been a better choice of words.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:27 am
“What you are referring to is stimulus related, and it was very poorly designed, and wayyyyy too expensive.
” I am refering to both. If TARP was so good, I would have that housing prices would improve by now. Yes, the ’stupid’ stimulus is also largely to blame, but TARP should not get a pass; it start the lack of consumer confidence ball rolling.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:31 am
We’ll just have to agree to disagree on that. My point is that even if it contributed to some degree of consumer confidence reduction, it was still FAR BETTER than a meltdown of our economy, and everybody that was anybody saw the need for it, albeit not so large and poorly managed.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Something needs to be done about Alex Knepper. On the thread he started about homosexuality yesterday, rather than debate his points on the merits, he’s now resorted to calling anyone who disagrees with him as, “a brown shirt.”
Kavon, is this behavior tolerated, particularly by a front page poster?
November 18th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
BWett, when Lorelli can call Erickson a race pimp on a front page post, then I don’t think that anything will much matter here anymore as far as the decorum of FPPers.
November 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Not to thread jack, but shouldn’t this be a front page:
NEW POLL: (today) SURVEYUSA Poll
Which of these Republicans would make a better president?
* Mitt Romney 25%
* Mike Huckabee 19%
* Sarah Palin 14%
* Newt Gingrich 11%
Among Conservatives
* Mitt Romney 27%
* Mike Huckabee 23%
* Sarah Palin 18%
* Newt Gingrich 12%
Among Republicans
* Mitt Romney 31%
* Mike Huckabee 26%
* Sarah Palin 13%
* Newt Gingrich 12%
Among Independents
* Mitt Romney 20%
* Newt Gingrich 19%
* Mike Huckabee 18%
* Sarah Palin 12%
Among Democrats
* Mitt Romney 29%
* Sarah Palin 15%
* Mike Huckabee 14%
* Newt Gingrich 7%
November 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
With respect Conservative, is this a national poll or a poll of just one city or state?
November 18th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
It appears to be national….I posted it from here.. if not, then where?
http://freshleadership.blogspot.com/2009/11/surveyusa-poll-americans-believe-romney.html
November 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Who will you vote for in 2012?
Results as of: 11-18-09 12:24pm EST
1st place – Huckabee 79%
2nd place – Romney 9%
3rd place – Palin 8%
4th place – Gingrich 1%
5th place – Jindal 1%
Mike Huckabee continues to dominate the field of potential 2012 Presidential Candidates. His gigantic network of Fans from all over the country keep expanding it’s base out further and further into every county of every state in America. Be sure to cast your vote for Huckabee today to keep him way out in the lead.
Check out the poll, just google the words: Huckabee Fan Club
November 18th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
lol……. so funny Huckapedia!! NOT!
November 18th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
If I remember correctly, wasn’t TARP originally for the purchase of banks’ toxic real estate assets? Wasn’t it after it passed that it morphed into what we have today?
If TARP had been used where it was originally targeted and things ended up as they are today, I could understand the argument against the supporters of TARP. However, I think its a little disingenuous to complain against Romney and other TARP supporters when the money was not used as originally intended.
November 18th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
No, it just means more of Romney supporters work for a living and don’t have time to deal will silly polls on a thread that has nothing to do with who you support.
(BTW: I am on my lunch break and just checking the news).
November 18th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Geography: Fresno-Visalia DMA
Party Affiliation
Republican Democrat Independ
HUCK 33% … 18% … 33%
Romney 24% … 21% … 18%
Sarah 24% … 15% … 14%
November 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
50. I’m having trouble finding your poll numbers on SURVEYUSA -just see the ones in my 57. post…
Please steer me to their exact location and their demos.
Thanks. : )
November 18th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I did not find the results on Survey USA either, but it might still be true because it does not match their other polls. I’ll hold on a few days before I dismiss it.
November 18th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
#53,
That’s FUNNY!
Quoting a Poll from HUCKABEEFANCLUB.COM A little over 200 people voted. Huckabee should be worried that 21% of HIS FANS, won’t vote for him!
November 18th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
“Quoting a Poll from HUCKABEEFANCLUB.COM A little over 200 people voted. Huckabee should be worried that 21% of HIS FANS, won’t vote for him!” Haha, where can I vote to make that 22%?
November 18th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
How many time you going to post that little town of Fresno???
November 18th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
#61
here is the site;
http://www.huckabeefanclub.com/
I just voted for Romney!
November 18th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Ohio Joe, I believe the numbers that ConserRepublican posted in 50.
are Los Angeles ONLY. That makes sense. Neither Mike nor Sarah will ever do too well there, imo.
November 18th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
The Fresno type demographics are where the changes will occur, imho.
Not Los Angeles or New York City… LOL
November 18th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
62, Nice try, my friend -
With not revealing what city your poll post (50.) came from…
November 18th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
“Ohio Joe, I believe the numbers that ConserRepublican posted in 50.
are Los Angeles ONLY.” Yes you are right. Haha, those sneaky characters think that L.A. is representative of the whole country.
November 18th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
ConservativeRepublican Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 9:47 am
As I’ve said for many months, I believe Heath is a liberal troll posing as a Romney supporter. I would appreciate it if others recognized this, and took him with a grain of salt. Whether or not he is a troll, he hurts Mitt more than he helps him (by far).
The stimulus hasn’t worked, at all. Doing nothing would have been better, but targeted incentives for business would have done wonders, and things would have turned around quickly.
TARP is another story. Everyone that even claimed to have the credentials to understand the magnitude of the problem agreed that something had to be done to avoid a complete financial meltdown…the end of America as we know it. Whether or not that is a fact can not be proven either way, but those that had the background to make a judgement on it all agreed something had to be done. However, as Ohio Joe used to acknowledge, Mitt did not support TARP of the same magnitude, but a much smaller targeted version with payback guarantees and protections. That was in the days that OJ was being more honest and less hateful.
Actually pal I’ve been a consistent conservative on this site since late 2006! How about you proove your bona fides. I can’t help it if I’m no fan of Sarah Palin. I don’t mind any other candidate and back them over our imcompotent president.
It’s a sad state of affairs where you have to be 100% rabidly anti the President to avoid being called a troll.
ps ironically you don’t seem to really disagree with me about TARP/stimulus anyway so wake up.
November 18th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Heath, you sound like a moderate many times, and I believe you hurt Mitt by some of your comments. I’ll take your word for it that you’re a conservative, but I think sometimes, perhaps for the sake of argument, you argue points counter to Mitt’s positions, and to many on here, that reflects adversely on Mitt, and make him appear more moderate than he is.
Even though Mitt has not changed one iota from 2007/2008, many on here attempt to paint him as if he is repositioning. I don’t see it…what has he changed?….not a darned thing!
November 18th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I posted my link I got it from, and it appeared to have been national. If it was LA only, I apologize to all of you.
November 18th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Heath is harmless, CR. He has a lot of good points. I don’t think anyone can make Romney look like a moderate, but Romney himself, and he’s not going to do that.
He does appeal to moderates, however – which is a plus.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:52 am
“Huckabee calling his primary opponents “penguins lining up to the march”
I don’t what Huckabee actually said in the book, but you are misquoting Adam.
He suggested it was the “most vocal critics of my campaign”, not his primary opponents. There is
a difference. Undoubtedly, he was talking about the fiscal conservatives who attacked his tax
policies and then supported TARP (Which would include Mitt Romney, but man others as well.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:55 am
“Not only was Romney right to support TARP, you would have to have been crazy not to have.”
The American people largely opposed it and for good reason. It was rushed.
It was a huge power grab with the aftermath still lingering with us.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:12 am
“the stimulus worled”
“no TARP would have been a disaster”
H/P or P/H: I think you are beginning to see the lurch left on social issues (and possibly economic ones!) from those who envy Palin and hate Huckabee. I suspect you will see Mitt Romney decide that these two will share the conservatives and he won’t have any choice but to try to pass them both on the left.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:06 am
I don’t care how he passed them as long as he does!
You guys still don’t understand that saying TARP and stimulus were necessary, as Mitt did, is NOT the same as saying his would have looked anything similar.
And if supporting TARP makes you a moderate I guess Bush is a moderate now lol.
November 19th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
[...] Adam Graham at race42012 gave a summary of what this new chapter is about. Huckabee uses this chapter to praise the pick of Sarah Palin as Vice President, to hammer on those who supported TARP and the stimulus and to make a point how some of those people were the very ones who criticized him for not being a fiscal conservative, and to make a statement of what he would have done if Joe Lieberman was the VP pick: Huckabee planned to not appear at the Republican Convention “quietly” and to focus his attention exclusively on House, Governor, and Senate candidates. [...]
November 20th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Bush was a moderate in many ways.